Those of us who accept that there has been a real occurrence of a race of human hybrids, including giants on Earth and the presence of heavenly beings who initiated the existence of those beings are up against two main sources of criticism. On the one side there is the secular world, which will not, under any circumstances support evidence (or even let evidence be known) which could in any way substantiate biblical history. While i don't expect anything more or less from the secular world, it's the other side of the coin that becomes frustrating, and that is believers in biblical history who refuse outright anything which is remotely connected to giants, nephilim or a world history that includes them.

Most believers know secular atheists who rail against the "fairy tale" of scripture having never once read the text which they refute. It's common sense that we can't formulate an opinion on a written record if we are never wiling to read it. Why then, should there ever be believers who are comfortable exercising the same kind of prejudice towards bodies of evidence which thwart their traditional viewpoint? If any group of individuals has a duty to be thorough in their consideration of all facts, it should be us.

World history presents us with a picture that is very very difficult to reconcile to either the mainstream story or even to a biblical one which does not allow for the insertion of some extraterrestrial influence. Here i have complied a "tip of the iceberg" of the anomalous, the strange and the out-of-place which should put these bible references in their intended perspective:

Now it came to pass when men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born to them that the sons of the 'Elohiym saw the daughters of men were beautiful and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. - Genesis 6:1,2

There were nephilim on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of the 'Elohiym came in to the daughters of men and they bore to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. -Genesis 6:4

There we saw the nephilim (the descendants of 'Anaq came from the giants) and we were like grasshoppers in our own sight and so we were in their sight." -Numbers 13:33

In every corner of the globe there exists legends of giants. This alone..just this one fact needs an answer. When we discuss the great flood with a non-believer, we point out that global flood stories The fact that cultures far from one another should retain such similar stories of an event is evidence that it was not a concocted legend, but that it came from the re-telling of a true event. Why then should the same logic not apply to repeated beliefs about the existence of giants...from Australian Aborigines to Europe, Asia, the Middle East, Native North and South Americans and every island in between.

Not only do we have stories though..we have hard evidence, the remains of individuals who could hardly be called your "average human being."...

In 1833, in Lampec-Rancho California, buried beneath boulders, soldiers found the skeletal remains of an individual who measured 11 feet, 9 inches. Other discoveries of skeletal remains between 9 and 18 feet include...1887, Eureka Nevada- 11 feet, 1891, Crittenton Arizona -9 feet, 8 inches with polydactyly, 1928, Tensas Perish Louisiana - 9 feet, 11 inches, 1931, Madison Parish, Louisiana - 10 feet,2 inches, 1923, Grand Canyon - petrified remains 18 and 15 feet. Among the most bizarre findings of humanoid remains have been skulls with double rows of teeth and even some with horns.

Besides physical remains, footprints are evidence of huge persons which have walked the Australia were found footprints measuring 2 feet long and 7 inches across the toes spaced 6 feet apart, indicating a 12 foot tall person, another set in the same region with a 10 inch toe span indicates a person 17 feet tall.

Since pictures are reputed to be far more compelling than words..let's look at some..

The mainstream explanation to why there should exist skulls which look like those above is that certain cultures had made a practice amongst the nobility of intentionally deforming the skulls of their children using boards to flatten and elongate their heads. While it is true that some did this it can't be applied to every instance of discovery of an elongated skull. Many of these specimens not only had an oddly shaped head, they had a larger brain capacity. This, of course can't be accomplished by artificial deforming of the skull. Furthermore, one has to ask the question...what on Earth compels a people to intentionally deform their skulls to look like this and why is it attached to the idea of nobility? This is a feature that can be seen represented repeatedly in Egyptian depictions of royalty...

It is important to factor in Egypt's own testimony about their nobility, in that they held to the assertions that their rulers were, in the beginning, "gods" and that the successive rulership was held by hybrids, the children of these "gods". Egypt is not the last that can be seen of the presence of elongated skulls, in fact it is a feature that is present (if not as prominent) in the European noble bloodlines.

Princess of the House of Este - 1400's

We can perhaps safely assume this girl's head was not intentionally deformed in a bizarre, primitive cultural tradition.

The answer of the board-deformed skulls also does nothing to explain a different sort of anomalous skull...

Now to examine the incredible structures and depictions of engineering which exist to this day from a far distant past which defy all explanations of human ingenuity.

Ancient runways cut into mountaintops...

The Great Pyramid...the most perfect structure ever to be built on Earth, incorporating advanced mathematical knowledge and demonstrating perfect understanding of the Earth's placement in the heavens, dimensions, polar alignment and central landmass point.

Sacsayhuaman were these massive stones fit together perfectly like a puzzle with not so much as a hairsbreadth between them?

Who drew these lines which can not be recognized as images from the ground, but only from aircraft?

Who was flying airplanes thousands of years ago?

If humans were capable of these things thousands of years ago by virtue of their own abilities of intellect and discovery then we should see a gradual incline from primitive to advanced and yet that isn't the case. The world was clearly primitive to a point and then without prelude or warning, there is a sudden burst of advanced knowledge from seemingly nowhere. Only a bit over 1600 years passed between the creation of Adam and the flood and somewhere in this time an appearance of greatly advanced technological information interjected itself. By the same token, if we are dealing with a humanity with enough intelligence to understand the concepts which appeared in this era we are not dealing with a superstitious and simple minded people who are given to fabricating bizarre supernatural stories to explain simple, natural concepts. I believe that humans were intelligent pre flood, even moreso than they are now and yet they insist, universally, in ancient times that the source of their advanced technology was beings which arrived on Earth from heavenly realms. In today's world we don't have people insisting that the Wright Brothers were aliens or that Thomas Edison was a "god".

The similar traditions of the religious and historical records of multitudes of cultures worldwide keep pointing to three interconnected appearance of heavenly beings on earth, genetic manipulation and hybridization and finally a catastrophic flood. The Sumerians tell this story, accrediting the beings called the Anunnaki (those who came from heaven to Earth) with their knowledge and with breeding programs which mixed Earthly bloodlines with extraterrestrial ones. The Egyptians mirror this account and term the same being "Neteru" which translates to "Watchers". The Incas kept an oral tradition, as did other Native South Americans, of white skinned, tall humanoids who displayed knowledge and supernatural power far beyond human ability who came and "civilized" primitive mankind, teaching them how to use technology to make their lives more convenient. Babylonians and Assyrians reported a fish/human chimera creature who did the same post-flood.

The Pantheon of deities of these ancient peoples also mirror each other. We can see the same "gods" over and over again between widely differing geographical and cultural sources. By what coincidence of imagination should all these groups of people concoct the same "gods" pertaining to the same functions with the same circumstances surrounding them?

Now in this day it can't be ignored that there are millions of people who claim to have had visual encounters with unearthly beings or craft and that there are tens of thousands who report having been abducted by them...nor can we ignore the similarity that is evident in this with the ancient stories which reflect the same circumstances up to and including genetic experimentation done on human victims whether willing or not. No doubt, these things are a lot to wrap one's mind around for the first time and not the most palatable of ideas that there have been and are intrusive extra-dimensional beings interfering with humanity. In the simplest and most literal of scriptural readings, though, It becomes evident that these things are evidently factual and in knowing that is so, many points in scripture take on a clearer aspect of meaning with it in mind and equip the believer to answer to the fallacies which secular, mainstream science would have us accept. Rigidly refusing to put the evidence to the test on the grounds of "too strange to believe" can only lead to a place where we have no good answer to a world full of mysterious loose ends...and if we, as believers, don't have an answer which fits the evidence, you can believe the enemy will concoct a fable to fill in the blanks.

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Ancient City of Iranian Giants Found

Please be advised that the text is from the Google translator so some sentences read poorly.

Follow up to the link by Prodigal Son above...Iranian man's personal testimony of Giants in his homeland:


"February 21, 2011

Dear Mr. Quayle:

Hello, I hope things find you well. I am writing regarding your appearance on Coast to Coast AM. I have waited a few days to let the post-show e-mail "flurry" die down so there is a chance you may read this. I have always wanted to write you but, I have never wanted to bother you, as you probably have more important things going on. I believe now based on some things that you mentioned on the show, I finally have a legitimate reason. Call it the Holy Spirit or the Lord, but I feel now is the right time. I am under no illusion that my material is somehow earth shattering, only that you might find it interesting.

I am a second generation Iranian man, born in Iran but raised in the States.  Before finally settling down here, me and my parents and as well as many members of my extended family have lived all over the world. When you mentioned Iran on the show, I thought it was appropriate to send an "info-dump" your way.

1. Giants
My mother told me stories about them. They are very tall. In fact, the Farsi word for giant today is the word, Deev, the same word we get the word devil from...."


read the rest here:

From -The new ‘revised’ history of New Zealand
"...The bones of the first New Zealanders have been found at locations all over the country: A cache of bones was found in the Kaipara District in 2005 when a pig hunter’s dog wandered into a cave. Investigations were handed over to Noel Hilliam, retired Curator of the Dargaville Maritime Museum, and his team of researchers. The skeletons showed that there were, at least, three distinct physical types of pre-Maori interned there, ranging from the very tall people (around 7 to 8 feet in height - 2.4 metres), to people of normal stature, to the very small pygmy people.
Noel: "The small stature ‘Turehu" were a particularly attractive childlike people with very fine features. We know about them because these small people once populated countries like Ireland and traditional stories relate their occupation of the Pacific range from Tahiti to New Caledonia to New Zealand. A specialist who examined some of the skeletons in the cave likened them to a race of people living in Wales 3000 years ago."...
During the 1800s, the Rev Robert Maunsell compiled a vast dossier of information on a tribe of "Tall Ones" who had lived in the area, but it was destroyed when the old Port Waikato mission station burnt down. Much of his information was gathered by word of mouth from old Maori living in the area at the time but more striking evidence was gathered by the Reverend himself on several trips into burial caves, where there were skeletons of people over 2 metres tall. Among them, he reported there were several pieces of pottery. Maori did not make pottery.
Twelve years ago these Tall Ones "spoke from the dust" again during earthworks at Waikaretu. Contractors discovered a cave set into a limestone bluff. Inside were skeletons in stone crypts. By the length of the femurs, the bodies were 7-8ft tall (over 2 metres). Anthropologists from Auckland and Waikato universities were called in, then followed a complete shutdown of the site, with a 75 year moratorium placed upon it. Maurice Tyson of Tuakau, a contractor in the area for 50 years, recalls how this upset the men who had discovered the cave and who could not understand why such a valuable archaeological site should be kept secret. Maurice also speaks of seeing a stone village with walls near the mouth of the Waikaretu Stream. Stone from the village was crushed to use for road metal and nothing now remains..."



Descendants from the House of Este


Portrait of Leonello de Este showing the same elongated  head

take a look at the Este crest on that site....a white, crowned phoenix on a blue field. Can we say some Watcher symbolism is going on there?

Cyprium said:
take a look at the Este crest on that site....a white, crowned phoenix on a blue field. Can we say some Watcher symbolism is going on there?
Maybe post some info on know so much more about it.  I do not know very much about their symbolism.  It is so ocrazy though, how all those families are related...also I was thinking about how the oldest mummies of the pharaohs have red hair.

Estes Coat of Arms 1239-1431

Estes Coat of Arms 1231-1452



Leonello d'Este 1407-1450



Beatrice d'Este 1475-1497



Fresco in Estes castle, in the Lion's Tower 'Chamber of Dawn'

'Located inside the Lion's Tower, the Chamber of Dawn is decorated with a sumptuous ceiling representing the four parts of the day: on the right (coming in from the chapel) is the Dawn, a young winged Goddess who advances pulling the horses of the sun’s chariot by their reins. Proceeding then in a clockwise direction is the Day, when the chariot of the sun proceeds in all its shining glory, preceded by Dawn with two torches in her hands; then the Dusk, with the chariot of the sun going away towards the horizon; and Night, where Diana, with the lunar disc on her forehead, rejoins her lover Endymion. At the centre is an old man representing the Time, seated between the three Fates - Goddesses of Life and Death. In the lower part is a long procession of cherubs on chariots drawn by every type of animal.' (wiki)


the blue background and white phoenix of the older crest call to mind the Watchers who fell.. the supposed 'white' side of the enemy coin.. as well as the high nose bridges and sloped foreheads that Leonello and Beatrice show.


i've wondered before if 'profile' depictions came into being to show the features which are demonstrated in Watcher bloodlines.. from the front, the way a regular portrait is depicted, those Watcher traits are not as obvious as they would be from the profile view.. even the white phoenix, whose head is shown so often in profile, has a high (beak lol) bridge and a sloping forehead.

My head looks a bit like that :u|
Hi Charlene. Here is a link to an article about the connection between Phoenix symbolism and the Watchers:
The Easter Island Heads Have Full Bodies!
"The huge heads at Easter Island (Rapa Nui) were discovered to have bodies beneath the ground which are controversially argued to have become naturally buried over time. This argument is contested by the fact that they were made with more pointed bottom parts and were placed upright in groups, all facing away from the volcanic quarry (in contrast to the way they all once faced inwards on the Ahu platforms).
The buried parts of the statues, uncovered for the first time by S. Routledge, are of great interest not only because they add to the dimensions of these already huge statues but also because they reveal unsuspected but particularly detailed decorative carving (having been protected from the corrosive effects of the air and the rain)...."
"So how did it come to be inhabited in the first place? Genetics, archaeology and linguistics all show that as a whole, Polynesia was colonised from Asia, probably from around Taiwan. The various lines of evidence suggest people began migrating east around 5500 years ago, reached Polynesia 2500 years later, before finally gaining Easter Island after another 1500 years.
But the Norwegian adventurer Thor Heyerdahl thought otherwise. In the mid-20th century, he claimed that the famous Easter Island statues were similar to those at Tiahuanaco at Lake Titicaca in Bolivia, so people from South America must have travelled west across the Pacific to Polynesia. His famous Kon-Tiki expedition, in which he sailed a balsa wood raft from Peru to the Tuamotu islands of French Polynesia, showed that the trip could have been made. But if it was made, no trace remained.
Now Erik Thorsby of the University of Oslo in Norway has found clear evidence to support elements of Heyerdahl’s hypothesis. In 1971 and 2008 he collected blood samples from Easter Islanders whose ancestors had not interbred with Europeans and other visitors to the island.
Thorsby looked at the HLA genes, which vary greatly from person to person. Most of the islanders’ HLA genes were Polynesian, but a few of them also carried HLA genes only previously found in Native American populations...."
"It is an interesting fact that the islanders of Easter Island worship a mysterious site with 5 stone spheres; in the centre of a round stone-enclosure is a bigger stone sphere with 4 smaller stone spheres surrounding it. The site, “Te pito kura” must have been a ritual centre for the earliest islanders to pray and divine for something. The stone sphere on Easter Isle is at the northern coastal area of the island, just north of the statue quarry at the volcanic crater of Rano Raraku.
The islanders have a legend that the statues were moved to the platforms and raised upright by the use of mana, or mind power. Either the god Makemake, or priests or chiefs commanded them to walk or to float through the air, and according to one legend, use was made of a finely crafted stone sphere, 75 cm (2.5 ft) in diameter, called te pito kura (‘the golden navel’ or ‘the navel of light’), to focus the mana...."


Neanderthal Babies All Around: Synthetic Biology Is Closer Than You Think

George Church—he of the beard, tall man’s lope and overwhelming credentials—has hit the circuit to promote a new book: Regenesis: How Synthetic Biology Will Reinvent Nature and Ourselves. As the title explains, the book explores the field of synthetic biology, which centers on how man can program DNA to create things ranging from new fuels to seeds that grow into fully-formed houses. This subject often veers into the fanciful, and Church keeps up that tradition. Yet when he says things about bringing Neanderthals back to life, you have to take notice instead of chuckling.

For about the last 35 years, Church has been at the cutting edge of genetics and radical biology in academic and entrepreneurial settings. Today, he’s the professor of genetics at Harvard Medical School, the super-sought-after adviser to more than 20 companies in genetics and synthetic biology, and co-founder of a handful of companies. Church, 58, relishes the academic side of his work and has scores of researchers doing cutting-edge stuff at his Harvard lab. That said, he likes to make sure that people see him as a man of action and not just some big brain in an ivory tower. “I still do things with my own hands,” he says...

The thought experiment turns more intriguing when the subject of Neanderthals comes up. Church has tests running in the lab around Neanderthal cells as he tries to determine what this species might have looked and acted like. “I am 3.8 percent Neanderthal,” says Church, who has had his genome sequenced. “One of my ancestors mated with a Neanderthal, and I am not embarrassed by that.”

Church figures it’s only a matter of time and proven safety before people start picking out traits for their offspring and cloning entire children. “Almost all technology in this area is banned until it works,” Church says. “In vitro fertilization was banned, and now it is immoral to deny an infertile couple their birthright to have a child produced by their bodies. At some point, someone will come up with an airtight argument as to why they should have a cloned child. At that point, cloning will be acceptable. At that point, people will already be choosing traits for their children. What politician will tell a parent that they can’t spend their hard-earned money on getting an extra 50 SAT points for their child as long as it’s safe?”

Right, but what about the Neanderthals? I can’t let that one go.

“We have lots of Neanderthal parts around the lab. We are creating Neanderthal cells. Let’s say someone has a healthy, normal Neanderthal baby. Well, then, everyone will want to have a Neanderthal kid. Were they superstrong or supersmart? Who knows? But there’s one way to find out...”

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