I've been thinking about this diet again and was wondering what others have eaten on it for the firt step where I think you're only suposed to eat 30 or so carbs a day to detox and lose weight. Do you have to eat a bunch of meat and animal products for the first part of it to work? are there veggies that are low enough carb to eat on it for the first part for it to work mostly eating them? I've noticed the amount of carbs in milk and yogurt I buy and it's a good amount for the first part, it might only be a few things for a day unless I ate alot of hard cheese and cream and was wondering what others ate for it on the first part so it worked with very little carbs? Do the carbs in plain yogurt and milk matter? Do I have to count them? Will this mess up my body's metabolism if I eat low carb veggies but don't get the recomended calorie intake? Also in the ice cream I have there is organic carob bean gum and organic guar gum are those going to effect anything?

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Bean said:

it backfires because they eat the grain..............

will things made with grains smell unappealing after this? or make me feel sick?

Very true, the brain chemistry will degrade rapidly in the absence of animal fat and protein and cognitive function will steadily decline into dementia as well as paranoia. Taking vegetables out of the equation as well and going totally on fruit would result in serious nervous system damage that could be irreversable as well as depriving all other vital organs of necessary nutrients.

Bean said:

organic meat producers tend to be vocal on the humane treatment of their animals.  It's factory processed Face of Death farms to blame for animal stress hormones (just add them to the list of nasty hormones they inject them with!) 

Chickens are very vulnerable to stress hormones, being high-strung to begin with.. beef and other livestock kept in tiny pens with no interaction, disgusting surroundings and pumped full of drugs - THAT is a stressed-out animal. 

Organic providers are well-known for open pastures, clean environments and no nasty chemicals or practices... that is the type of animal Jacob himself would have raised - a happy one, and that is what you will get when you buy organic grass-fed beef, lamb, goat and free-range organic chicken..

humanely slaughtered as well, not by horrific machines, electrocution and violence.. the violence an animal suffers at death transfers into their systems and will be consumed by humans in the form of stress hormones..  Humanely slaughtered animals never even knew what happened, they died happy and never produced any final-freak-out yuckies.

i was a vegetarian for 10 years and i really thought about becoming a fruitarian there towards the end, but i realized that Yahushua would not have fed the masses with fish if it was bad, and stopped vegetarianism right then and there.

if you don't have meat fat, meat protein you will go insane, it's a proven scientific fact! 

"Veganism is associated with vitamin B12 deficiency and inadequate intake of omega-3 fatty acids. Multiple studies across three decades among different populations have illustrated the link between veganism and cobalamin deficiency. Both vitamin B12 and omega-3 fats are important to brain function. Vegans risk developing mental illness if they avoid sources of B vitamins and omega-3s. There are case reports as well as larger studies that describe the vitamin B12 deficiency caused by vegan diets. When I was a vegetarian (not even a vegan) I started developing 15 out of 16 symptoms on this list of bipolar symptoms. I also experienced obsessive-compulsive symptoms."

i don't agree with the author's assertion that humans are animals, however, the facts speak for themselves. http://samsnyder.com/2012/12/20/veganism-and-mental-illness/

once you're just on the grainfree nut free lifestyle after the ketogenic part how many carbs will it take to start gaining back the weight?

Without grains, it takes a lot of carbohydrates from other sources like potatoes and fruit to get back weight and some still can't. For those who want to gain back weight, try coconut flour and sprouted primitive grain flours after the digestive system has regulated.

You will probably never lose your interest in the scent of baking bread. Some who have done this plan eventually start craving those things all the more. That is the body's way of saying to increase the carb load.

so basicly if i just go and increase my carb amount with other stuff that craving will go away?
 
Prodigal Son said:

Without grains, it takes a lot of carbohydrates from other sources like potatoes and fruit to get back weight and some still can't. For those who want to gain back weight, try coconut flour and sprouted primitive grain flours after the digestive system has regulated.

You will probably never lose your interest in the scent of baking bread. Some who have done this plan eventually start craving those things all the more. That is the body's way of saying to increase the carb load.

bean so what do you feel like now compared to before this?

lol - i hope that's not a bitcoin bank! :)

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Bean said:

it backfires because they eat the grain..............

i feel spectacular by comparison!!!!! and i want to tell the whole world that yes, you can eat as much as you want and still lose weight and be healthy!! i used to really crave grain-carbs like cereal, but i found out organic ice cream and flour-free chocolate torte is even better lol.. i love this style of eating and it makes sense to me - no other way ever has made sense for every aspect of health, but this does.

Bean said:

lol - i hope that's not a bitcoin bank! :)

words left unspoken said:

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Bean said:

it backfires because they eat the grain..............

modern grains have an addictive nature to them and most people are addicted. I can not promise you will never crave it again but increasing the carb load does help tremendously

words left unspoken said:

so basicly if i just go and increase my carb amount with other stuff that craving will go away?
 
Prodigal Son said:

Without grains, it takes a lot of carbohydrates from other sources like potatoes and fruit to get back weight and some still can't. For those who want to gain back weight, try coconut flour and sprouted primitive grain flours after the digestive system has regulated.

You will probably never lose your interest in the scent of baking bread. Some who have done this plan eventually start craving those things all the more. That is the body's way of saying to increase the carb load.

so if i were to go on this and i counted the carbs in the dairy i ate and i ate a cup of milk that has 150 cals and 12 carbs or if i ate like three cups and used up all my carbs that's all i could eat for the day basicly?would the fact i only got 450 calories for that day make a impact?

calorie counting is basically pointless in terms of trying to lose weight. In this plan, you particularly do not want to reduce calorie intake. It only leads to be hungry, weak and eventually malnourished. Dairy carbs count if you are counting carbs. You can't exchange carb count for calorie count.

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