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I am making this its own topic in order to put this information in the forefront and in a category easily found.

As interesting as the story itself are the facts behind it. I have been doing searches on the people and topics surrounding the NOAA mermaid research and there is, without a doubt, a pretty successful campaign to obliterate all information of it from the internet.

First, there is the website of the NOAA scientist, Dr. Paul Robertson.

http://drpaulrobertson.com/

and the website mermaidsarealive.com "The real Evidence on Mermaids, From Dr. Paul Robertson,NOAA"

http://mermaidsarealive.com/

and the website believeinmermaids.com "Mermaids are Real, Real Evidence From Dr. Paul Robertson, NOAA"

http://believeinmermaids.com/

You will notice a similar result clicking all those links:


The only information left on the internet concerning the research of this phenomenon is the Animal Planet special itself, a Wikipedia entry calling that program a "mockumentary" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mermaids:_The_Body_Found ) and various bloggers, youtube members or forum posters speaking on the topic. Many of those speaking on it have come to the conclusion that it is "debunked" based mostly on the claim that Dr. Paul Robertson and a marine biologist by the name of Brian McCormick do not exist.

They are hard to find, but they do exist.

Here is an excerpt from a document by the Narragansett Bay National Estuarine Research Reserve, which research is affiliated with NOAA according to the document, and lists Brian McCormick as one individual who contributed to the project.

"The NBNERR Site Profile was made possible
through the help of many individuals. Notable contributors
and the expertise that they provided include...

Sincere thanks also goes to current and former
NBNERR staff members who assisted with materials
presented in this document, but who did not individually
author any of the chapters. These individuals include Robert
Stankelis, Kristen Van Wagner, Jennifer West, Matthew
Rehor, Kimberly Botelho, Brian McCormick, Alan Beck,
and especially Roger Greene...

This publication is sponsored by the NOAA
Estuarine Reserves Division and the State of Rhode Island.
This publication is also sponsored in part by Rhode Island
Sea Grant under NOAA Grant No. NA040AR4170062. The
views expressed herein do not necessarily refl ect the views
of the NBNERR, NOAA, or any of its sub-agencies. The
U.S. Government is authorized to produce and distribute
reprints for governmental purposes notwithstanding any
copyright notation that may appear hereon."

http://www.nbnerr.org/Content/SiteProfile08/1_Preface.pdf


And here is an excerpt from a document on the minutes of a Devils Lake water improvement district meeting. Listed as staff:

"STAFF: Paul Robertson, Seth Lenaerts, RARE Participant"

and affiliated with NOAA:

"Seid Creek: Green asked what is expected as the outcome on this issue. Robertson said
nothing has occurred. NOAA previously said they were going to do a site inspection in
March. Follow-ups have gone unanswered. Robertson asked if a letter from the Board
would be effective. He explained that this is a construction site that has been filling debris
above wetlands. Last year, a lot of it slid down into the wetlands. DSL has turned away
from any enforcement action and the Corps never investigated. Robertson said it appears
that Seid Creek is a watershed similar to Thompson Creek. Green asked for Robertson to
continue making calls rather than the Board writing a letter just yet."

http://www.dlwid.org/PDFs/Minutes%202009%2011%2005.pdf


Why, among all "conspiracy" related topics would this be the one that was so highly attacked? There are certainly elements of well accepted mainstream beliefs that might be shattered with the knowledge of aquatic humanoids. The aquatic ape theory is so poorly presented that even very adamant evolutionists could not help but feel shamed to preach it and it would not suffice to halt the questions about the accepted ideas of how life came to be on Earth. That is not the answer all by itself though. There is something else that should not be lost on the viewer amidst the more sensational news of mermaids. The weaponized "sonar" which the Navy had allegedly invented is surely a serious issue if it were publicly recognized.

I am not sure that i believe this weapon is Naval or is an advanced sonar weapon. We know there are sound weapons now and we know they can be lethal. They are not just a threat to wildlife in the Oceans, they are a threat to people on land as they have the capacity to be used not just in an aquatic environment but anywhere.

The USC sections sited on the shut down sites are those pertaining to making fraudulent or fictitious claims against the government. Those so-called fictitious claims almost certainly relate to the sound weapon mentioned. They are working hard to hide this and i wonder what we can do to make it less hidden, YHWH willing.
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UPDATE: May-31-2012
What is the goal of the Discovery channel?

The initial release of Mermaids, The Body Found seemed out of place in the mainstream. We do not usually expect such sources to put forth honest information on anything which involves government secrecy. There was obviously dishonesty put forth in the form the ridiculous aquatic ape theory and the program itself was dubbed a "mockumentary" by Wikipedia.

What is Animal Planet mocking? Perhaps the wish that many have to see someone in the forefront be genuinely interested in disclosing some things that we have known or suspected all along. Or perhaps the mockery of real people who have investigated these things and been subsequently silenced and discredited by the establishment.

Regarding anything which is put under the label "conspiracy theory", the media and entertainment industry has done its job in supplying the skeptics with ammunition against objective consideration of these things. "you watch too much television" is an effective termination to a conversation about UFO's, Montauk, MKULTRA or any one of a number of other topics.

The sites which supposedly supplied information on the topic of mermaids and the sound weapons researched by the scientists are apparently owned by Discovery Channel, themselves. why might they go this far? The easy answer might be greed and that they conducted what amounts to a "marketing ploy". Incongruous to that idea is the fact that we do continue to hear reports of marine mammals dying in the same way described in the program. We can find marine scientists with the names supplied in it and we are already aware of the technological potential of the US military for weapons which exceed anything called science fiction.

The sensational nature of the existence of mermaids attracted the most attention, though from my perspective it was never the most intriguing point. I was not in doubt of the existence of aquatic transgenics before Animal Planet and so what became more interesting to me was what weaponry would be so beyond the belief or acceptance of the public that there would be such a strategic effort to conceal it.

The question that remains for me is; what grain of truth might the establishment have attempted to bury within a massively hyped web of distraction which will remain in the memories of countless people as a marketing hoax? If you are already aware that the powers that be regularly play this game, you will be watching for the little loose threads of truth to follow in the future.

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    I agree. If the churches all over the world, no matter what the religion, discovered the impossible to most, than it would put peoples faith in doubt. We are taught certain ways as we grow. Learning subjects from our elders and passing them down. If one is proven to be wrong with in the church, than the followers of the church will have thoughts of being mislead. This would cause mass misconception of peoples of faith.

     This is why I have chossen to let my children choose when they are old enough to to understand and think upon themselves,. a beliefe that best pretains to them. On that note as children we are told to believe in one thing from our mentors. We are told usually only one therory and not other therories that may be presented. Upon investigation we will learn for ourselves the truth, or what our minds are able to let in.

  

Being open minded is where it begins...but our ultimate goal should be to find out The Truth...with that capital "T". Since, by definition, there can not be multiple truths which contradict each other (and if they don't contradict, they aren't multiple)...there is something which is true at the end of the day.

I think just as much as minds have been clouded by mainstream religion...they have also been clouded by the idea that we should not deem one "belief" right and another "wrong". Beliefs are just what we believe...but there is truth and there is falsehood and it is our right, our privilege and our duty to find out the difference.

Nothing will matter more than what matters eternally.

 I believe these are beta test's They always test their weapons on animals first. to be used on us (human beings)

at a future time, after all, are we not mammals ? It's staggering to think what can be done with these weapons...

Pulverize organs ,Put voices right in your head !confuse, agitate, anger, see things that are not there ie; Project blue beam etc.

this stuff scares me. And then there's the strange sounds from almost everywhere on the planet. There seems to be no end to their Evil. They seem to want to destroy everything Our Father has created...

and doing a awesome job of it. G-d help us.

Peace, Kenny.

 

Wow. Looks like we need a little Occam's Razor here - Homeland Security apparently seizes websites, so the thought is that they're shutting down discussion/investigation about mermaids?  Hmmm. Wouldn't the simpler explanation be something along the lines of shutting down anything that discussed experimental weapons?

I emailed the Discovery Channel, asking why they presented the show with an obvious intent to present modern-day mermaids as real with so little in the way of practical, available evidence. I got a boilerplate response that effectively said nothing.


The fact is that REAL documentaries use REAL people, not actors. I would LOVE to know that mermaids really exist - it would go a long way toward raising awareness about ocean conditions and worldwide pollution in general... ...but so far, this thing isn't a conspiracy against mermaids, it's just a mockumentary and some closed websites.

yes, that has been stated in the article, or was in the beginning, before we became so popular, Scott.  It was the reason actually stated for taking this from a vid posted on the front page into a discussion, in fact.  So yes, I agree and I think many others do so also.  But we also do have a mind able to expand to include chimera's on the earth.  That would not be the reason the abc's are so interested though, absolutely.

Hi Scott

"Wow. Looks like we need a little Occam's Razor here - Homeland Security apparently seizes websites, so the thought is that they're shutting down discussion/investigation about mermaids?


No, my position is not that the government is trying to hide mermaids. I do believe the government consistently hides the level of technology they are working with to develop new weapons though.

"Wouldn't the simpler explanation be something along the lines of shutting down anything that discussed experimental weapons?"

Yes, exactly.


"The fact is that REAL documentaries use REAL people, not actors."

As i stated, the program was presented as a "mockumentary". Animal Planet is not interested in doing a service of disclosure to the public.

"but so far, this thing isn't a conspiracy against mermaids, it's just a mockumentary and some closed websites."

I would agree, there is not a conspiracy against mermaids. Just against human beings. I have, however, always acknowledged the existence of aquatic chimeras as well as other chimera types before Animal Planet ever discussed them. Genetic engineering is not the new thing that most would suppose it is.

While reading this article : Reversing World War 3 found here:http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2235/795/REVERSING_WORLD_WAR_3_Manip...

I found this article:http://www.intuitor.com/resonance/tesla.php

while I would like to post a lot more about this, I find that this thread is messing with my computer and it has taken me as long to post this little bit as it did to post all the other posts on the TNL site that I did this day combined. So abc controllers cudo's to your job well done.

Hello Tabitha...glad you could join us

"I don't want to believe that they are products of the Nephillim because that makes me believe they will either be condemned or annihilated in the near future."

I do not personally believe that Nephilim are hopelessly damned. Even such hybrids are partly human...they have Adam as their ancestor and they have the will and intellect to make a decision for repentance, even if that goes against the grain of their nature.

Repentance goes against the grain of all of our natures...we have all sinned and come short of the glory of YHWH, Yet the salvation of Yahushua promises to us that we will be new creatures. A very interesting way to put it when you consider hybrid beings...exactly what they need to be redeemed is to become a "new creature"...one that is clean in His sight.

Some would argue nephilim must be damned because their conception is outside the will of YHWH but there are two things to remember about that...
The book of Numbers makes it hard to get around the fact that nephilim descendants are still alive within (and mixed into) the present population so that no one knows for sure they are not in some part a descendant thereof and...

that persons conceived outside His will also include the offspring of unmarried people and the offspring of rapes and incest. These people are certainly not without hope in salvation.

"One question, if Atlantis rises, will it be used to IEUE's purpose or judged?"

I understand the idea of "Atlantis" a little differently than many others. Though the Island of Atlas may have been a great hub of technology and "advancement" of the pre-flood world, when occult tradition speaks of Atlantis, it refers to the entire pre-flood world.

In this essence, Atlantis has risen in a physical sense...the metaphor of Atlantis used by the occult elite refers to that state of imagined utopia that they believe the world would be for them once they have realized their great vision...the New World Order.

The Earth and this imagined vision of the power elite's utopia will be judged, but in that judgement, the Earth will be cleansed and the saved will inherit it. Then the True Paradise on Earth can begin...one that is reigned over by our Savior instead of the feeble and twisted ideas of sinful men.

Tabitha McCourt said:

I believe that mermaids could be real. If they are, I hope they are wiped out come the final judgement. I would love to see creatures like this praising IEUE and fulfilling His will in the future. I don't want to believe that they are products of the Nephillim because that makes me believe they will either be condemned or annihilated in the near future.

One question, if Atlantis rises, will it be used to IEUE's purpose or judged?

There were 120 dolphins that died so far this year on the Texas Gulf coast.  The officials are saying they don't know why, but they are looking into it.  It was juvenile, not young or old as is the usual and the number so far this year, is the amount for the total year in years past.  There is a sludge in the stomachs of some.  They are testing it to see if it is petroleum product or not.  Very sad.  It actually made the 5 o'clock major news.  And they did say use the words British Petroleum, but only to say that they didn't know if the oil spill had anything to do with it.  I ususally spend some time in or on the gulf every year, but this year have felt like, it was not a good idea.  Maybe if I took the sail boat further south, to the border, but not here, not now.

"Concerning the Mermaids, will they still have their fish form if they are saved to inhabit the New Earth? Just wondering this because to see unique creatures like this on the New Earth could really bring IEUE esteem."

Well, to be honest...i really don't know for sure. I could take some guesses based on what little present world information there is about chimeras but this is still a future event.

Chimeras have human, animal and even angelic components to their makeup... we could safely assume they would not be formed into a simple aquatic animal because it was their very sentience which made them able to accept redemption, which animals are not accountable to. They would not be given a purely angelic nature because they were flesh beings who belong in a flesh body and it is likely the case that no new angelic creatures are yet to be formed. That leaves either a purely human form their own form in a future "cleaned up" state.

When it comes to the future bodies of redeemed humans, i think that we have only a limited sense of what that will ultimately look like per individual. It will be a physical body, a perfect body, incorruptible and immortal...but as for other changes, those are just guesses. Sometimes we forget that we can't imagine the best He has to offer in the future because we have never yet experienced that future, but we can certainly trust that it will be The Best and we will be satisfied with it.

"I don't believe every creature of a Nephal is cursed even though the term Nephal made me feel that way."

Everyone who sins is technically under a curse...but whether human or hybrid we each choose either to live in the curse or be redeemed out of it. I do see how there is a leading belief in Christianity to dismiss out of hand the idea that a mixed creature is able to repent but its never made common sense to me. They did not incite their fathers/makers to rebel...they were born to a situation that left them victims in a sense. I've met many "ordinary" people who were born into the curse of their parents but still reached out to the healing of Yahushua and received it.

Each individual who calls on Him to heal them from their sin is really no different than a nephil who made the same choice...out of death, into life...a brand new creature.

Tabitha McCourt said:

I forgot that Atlantis is used as a metaphor for the NWO. I always thought it would be some beautiful city like New Jerusalem. Concerning the Mermaids, will they still have their fish form if they are saved to inhabit the New Earth? Just wondering this because to see unique creatures like this on the New Earth could really bring IEUE esteem.

I don't believe every creature of a Nephal is cursed even though the term Nephal made me feel that way. It is just that the idea of these beings makes me wonder if the unique form they have, even if it is form a bad creature that needs repentance, can be used for good and thus exist in IEUSHUO's kingdom as they are rather than being changed into human full form.

You don't have to weaponize sonar. Sonar as it is used is a intrinsically harmful to marine life. It can be safely used, but as it stands sonar is designed to navigate and creates such powerful waves it disrupts marine mammals sensory organs. Bringing awareness of this is probably the whole point of the show. It seems sad that such a clever way of waking people up to beached whales will probably just result in publicity stunts for the existence of mermaids (at best) and the risk of misdemeanors for all the participants of the show.

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