This Discussion is posted in response to the video added here:

I am making this its own topic in order to put this information in the forefront and in a category easily found.

As interesting as the story itself are the facts behind it. I have been doing searches on the people and topics surrounding the NOAA mermaid research and there is, without a doubt, a pretty successful campaign to obliterate all information of it from the internet.

First, there is the website of the NOAA scientist, Dr. Paul Robertson.

and the website "The real Evidence on Mermaids, From Dr. Paul Robertson,NOAA"

and the website "Mermaids are Real, Real Evidence From Dr. Paul Robertson, NOAA"

You will notice a similar result clicking all those links:

The only information left on the internet concerning the research of this phenomenon is the Animal Planet special itself, a Wikipedia entry calling that program a "mockumentary" ( ) and various bloggers, youtube members or forum posters speaking on the topic. Many of those speaking on it have come to the conclusion that it is "debunked" based mostly on the claim that Dr. Paul Robertson and a marine biologist by the name of Brian McCormick do not exist.

They are hard to find, but they do exist.

Here is an excerpt from a document by the Narragansett Bay National Estuarine Research Reserve, which research is affiliated with NOAA according to the document, and lists Brian McCormick as one individual who contributed to the project.

"The NBNERR Site Profile was made possible
through the help of many individuals. Notable contributors
and the expertise that they provided include...

Sincere thanks also goes to current and former
NBNERR staff members who assisted with materials
presented in this document, but who did not individually
author any of the chapters. These individuals include Robert
Stankelis, Kristen Van Wagner, Jennifer West, Matthew
Rehor, Kimberly Botelho, Brian McCormick, Alan Beck,
and especially Roger Greene...

This publication is sponsored by the NOAA
Estuarine Reserves Division and the State of Rhode Island.
This publication is also sponsored in part by Rhode Island
Sea Grant under NOAA Grant No. NA040AR4170062. The
views expressed herein do not necessarily refl ect the views
of the NBNERR, NOAA, or any of its sub-agencies. The
U.S. Government is authorized to produce and distribute
reprints for governmental purposes notwithstanding any
copyright notation that may appear hereon."

And here is an excerpt from a document on the minutes of a Devils Lake water improvement district meeting. Listed as staff:

"STAFF: Paul Robertson, Seth Lenaerts, RARE Participant"

and affiliated with NOAA:

"Seid Creek: Green asked what is expected as the outcome on this issue. Robertson said
nothing has occurred. NOAA previously said they were going to do a site inspection in
March. Follow-ups have gone unanswered. Robertson asked if a letter from the Board
would be effective. He explained that this is a construction site that has been filling debris
above wetlands. Last year, a lot of it slid down into the wetlands. DSL has turned away
from any enforcement action and the Corps never investigated. Robertson said it appears
that Seid Creek is a watershed similar to Thompson Creek. Green asked for Robertson to
continue making calls rather than the Board writing a letter just yet."

Why, among all "conspiracy" related topics would this be the one that was so highly attacked? There are certainly elements of well accepted mainstream beliefs that might be shattered with the knowledge of aquatic humanoids. The aquatic ape theory is so poorly presented that even very adamant evolutionists could not help but feel shamed to preach it and it would not suffice to halt the questions about the accepted ideas of how life came to be on Earth. That is not the answer all by itself though. There is something else that should not be lost on the viewer amidst the more sensational news of mermaids. The weaponized "sonar" which the Navy had allegedly invented is surely a serious issue if it were publicly recognized.

I am not sure that i believe this weapon is Naval or is an advanced sonar weapon. We know there are sound weapons now and we know they can be lethal. They are not just a threat to wildlife in the Oceans, they are a threat to people on land as they have the capacity to be used not just in an aquatic environment but anywhere.

The USC sections sited on the shut down sites are those pertaining to making fraudulent or fictitious claims against the government. Those so-called fictitious claims almost certainly relate to the sound weapon mentioned. They are working hard to hide this and i wonder what we can do to make it less hidden, YHWH willing.
UPDATE: May-31-2012
What is the goal of the Discovery channel?

The initial release of Mermaids, The Body Found seemed out of place in the mainstream. We do not usually expect such sources to put forth honest information on anything which involves government secrecy. There was obviously dishonesty put forth in the form the ridiculous aquatic ape theory and the program itself was dubbed a "mockumentary" by Wikipedia.

What is Animal Planet mocking? Perhaps the wish that many have to see someone in the forefront be genuinely interested in disclosing some things that we have known or suspected all along. Or perhaps the mockery of real people who have investigated these things and been subsequently silenced and discredited by the establishment.

Regarding anything which is put under the label "conspiracy theory", the media and entertainment industry has done its job in supplying the skeptics with ammunition against objective consideration of these things. "you watch too much television" is an effective termination to a conversation about UFO's, Montauk, MKULTRA or any one of a number of other topics.

The sites which supposedly supplied information on the topic of mermaids and the sound weapons researched by the scientists are apparently owned by Discovery Channel, themselves. why might they go this far? The easy answer might be greed and that they conducted what amounts to a "marketing ploy". Incongruous to that idea is the fact that we do continue to hear reports of marine mammals dying in the same way described in the program. We can find marine scientists with the names supplied in it and we are already aware of the technological potential of the US military for weapons which exceed anything called science fiction.

The sensational nature of the existence of mermaids attracted the most attention, though from my perspective it was never the most intriguing point. I was not in doubt of the existence of aquatic transgenics before Animal Planet and so what became more interesting to me was what weaponry would be so beyond the belief or acceptance of the public that there would be such a strategic effort to conceal it.

The question that remains for me is; what grain of truth might the establishment have attempted to bury within a massively hyped web of distraction which will remain in the memories of countless people as a marketing hoax? If you are already aware that the powers that be regularly play this game, you will be watching for the little loose threads of truth to follow in the future.

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Ok so I got this email when all this began from someone outside the country based on his usage of the English language.( Robert please rejoin, the mass joining after this was the reason for your being  dis joined, so if you rejoin and follow the new rules that will not happen) adn it said that he had watched this vid in this other country and that it was different than the one the US got to watch.  So I went hunting and I think I found it.  But first I want to address the mockumentary aspect of this film starting with this:

This is a place for movie reviews and information.

Here is the photo's of the actors listed in the movie review:

Sean Cameron Michael

Andre Weidemen

Candice d' Arcy

So there are the people in the flim, but is the film based on actual people?  As pointed out by Prodigal, YES,

here is the list of  places where this film is located:

this is the one I like putlocker:

Like Blair Witch and the one about UFO's in Alaska, The Fourth Kind, I think this film was made in the same genre of mockumentary.

 but like is stated at the end of the film The bloop is a real phenomenon, that meaning the guy with the sound recordings, the events of mammals washing up on the shore are real:

( the reports vary from 200 to 2000 dolphins in this case all dead unlike the others)\

While some may be duplicate reports of the same event from different sources, this is only to page 37 of 72 pages, which I am growing tired of going through, but you can, just google dead whales dolphin and you too will see the thousands of entries from all over the globe about mass dead mammals.

So like stated before, I am sure the government will not be stepping up to let us know the results of any sonar tests they are doing and why, much less HAARP tests, so we may never know whether this is man made, or part of Hosea 4.  Maybe Hosea 4 was looking at sonar and HAARP in his writings who knows?

Hos 4:1  Hear the word of the LORD, ye children of Israel: for the LORD hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land.
Hos 4:2  By swearing, and lying, and killing, and stealing, and committing adultery, they break out, and blood toucheth blood.
Hos 4:3  Therefore shall the land mourn, and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven; yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away.

YHWH knows, and He is watching every one of us and will reconcile every mammal and bird needlessly killed, I promise!

Updated information in the article - 5-31-2012

People can also look up the thousands of black birds that mysteriously died in Beebe county.
Or over a million fish killed in Chesa Peek Bay.
Tbh, it keeps me thinking of that Project Blue Beam story.

"Converting Sound to Microwaves

In 1973, Joseph C. Sharp, an experimental psychologist at Walter Reed Army Institute of Research performed an experiment that was pivotal to the development of the torture equipment being shipped to Iraq today. He had James Lin set up equipment in his laboratory which converted the shape of sound waves into microwave radiation that enabled him to hear himself vocalize the names of the numbers from one to ten in his head, by-passing the mechanism of his own ears. This particular experiment was never published but is mentioned in Lin’s book, Microwave Auditory Effects and Applications, published in 1978.5

The experiment has been confirmed in US Patent 6 587 729, “Apparatus for Audibly Communicating Speech Using the Radio Frequency Hearing Effect”.6 This patent is for an improved version of the apparatus used in the 1973 laboratory experiment, issued on July 1, 2003 and assigned to the Secretary of the Air Force. It provides scientific evidence that it is possible to hear threatening voices in one’s head without suffering from paranoid schizophrenia.

Why has this patent been published openly at a time when the U.S. Government is practicing a degree of secrecy that rivals Stalin’s Kremlin? I have no satisfactory answer, except to say that the apparatus in the patent has already been superseded by equipment that achieves the same effect by far more sophisticated means. It blocks the normal processes of memory and thought by remote electronic means, while at the same time supplying false, distorted and/or unpleasant memories and suggestions by means of a process called “synthetic telepathy”. The equipment that produces synthetic telepathy is sometimes referred to as “influence technology”.

While voices and visions, daydreams and nightmares are the most astonishing manifestations of this weapon system, it is also capable of crippling the human subject by limiting his/her normal range of movement, causing acute pain that is the equivalent of major organ failure or even death, and interfering with normal functioning of any of the human senses. In other words, any of the torture methods with which the words Guantanamo Bay have become synonymous can be achieved by remote, electronic means. "

Upon recent articles I have been looking at and hearing about, why would one deny the possibility that there maybe new/old life in this world. Why is it so hard to believe? Yet why is our government trying to hide it? I believe they are trying to hide the fact that there is unseen life out in our seas, on the fact that they are getting ready to be expose, what can be the most harmfull weapon to man. EMF readings in your house can be brought on by faulty wiring, or even the smallest game charger. These have been known to cause disorientation, forms of anxiety, loss of memory, body sickness and the list goes on. So if the EMF spikes are high enough, and for creatures with great abilities to hear things others cant, then why wouldnt it cause damage as far as death to them? There are movies out there that are about subects like this. They are to believe to be cover ups as well. Making the public think that there is no way this can happen, and changing minds with little thought process to believe other wise. Look at the movie The Core. As lame and little money that was put into it, it isnt that far off. Think about it, what is our government trying to really hide? I know with my husband, last year being deployed, he was blown up by an IED accident, injuring mainly himself, " Thank you Lord", but I found out many things that the news dosent tell the pubic and trys to hide. Also there is alot of things that I have been shared by my husband that goes on behind closed doors, that we aren't suppose to know. So if they are doing this to us, why not try to pull more power and hide what evidence there is for us out there? Thank you for reading my very long thought.

Another thing they consistently hide is evidence that points out the obvious flaws of the accepted evolutionary theory.  The thing about mermaids is, the bible has an answer to it and historic records agree.

Even though our bible has changed so much from generation to generation. Everyone who is important has tried to put thier own twist on the bible, but yet the signs of those who are lost to us are there. Look at the marking insides caves, above and under water. You can see by studing them on how evolution has taken place. In some relgions though they dont believe in evelution or the big bang theroy. Yet between genetics and other testing, it is clear that evelution has taken place. There are worlds apart from eachother, yet they have drawings on cave walls that are one in the same. How is it that these tribes would have never talked or had any contact, yet they have apparently seen and recorded the same creatures that our government has denied to be true?

I agree that we now have an English Bible that reflects the result of what is probably intentionally bad translations and some books have been omitted which clearly fit with and are referenced by Canonical scripture. I do believe, though, that not only is the truth "out there"...but it is accessible. It may take a lot of effort to unearth, but the message has not been hopelessly lost...and the most important message has remained the most attainable.

There are many things that mainstream Christianity will not accept because of how the message has been interpreted in churches. Most churches will not teach the facts on nephilim and most will not approach the subject of the UFO phenomenon. Based on that, most Christians will reject those topics on the basis of their "beliefs" contrary to any real biblical information on the matter.

When the evidence flies in the face of the mainstream teaching, I have to question that teaching, but i have never found what scripture Actually says to ever contradict the evidence.

In speaking of evolution we have to keep certain facts in mind. One, that the evolutionary theory has remained a theory to this has never been elevated to the status of a fact, even though it is taught as if it has been....and two, that this, like everything else, has the potential to be presented by the establishment with monumental bias and an agenda to pass something off as "proven" which has not been.

We are trained to believe that science and scientist represent a body of fully objective individuals who will always adhere to what is strictly proven and never present what is not proven as a fact. We should ask..why would that be the case? We do have numerous "scientific" findings to refer back to which have been clearly fraudulent and so we see that science is not any more divorced from the web of deceit in the world system than politics or media is.

The most valuable lesson i have ever learned about the truth and finding it is... you must question every detail of what you have always believed to be right and you must want the truth more than you want what you Want to be true.

Since we can not trust the establishment "experts" to be objective and honest...that falls to all of us who want to know what truth really is.

Rebekah Bargowski said:

Even though our bible has changed so much from generation to generation. Everyone who is important has tried to put thier own twist on the bible, but yet the signs of those who are lost to us are there. Look at the marking insides caves, above and under water. You can see by studing them on how evolution has taken place. In some relgions though they dont believe in evelution or the big bang theroy. Yet between genetics and other testing, it is clear that evelution has taken place. There are worlds apart from eachother, yet they have drawings on cave walls that are one in the same. How is it that these tribes would have never talked or had any contact, yet they have apparently seen and recorded the same creatures that our government has denied to be true?

I posted this study for another site, but I think it appropriate for where this thread has taken us.  It may be in two parts.


Joh 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
Joh 3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

(this is the point where the truth has been hidden. This sentence is better translated as Except a man be born from above. Meaning except the soul of a man come from YHWH, )

Joh 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

( this man was a learned man of Judah who was a temple elder a teacher and he didn't understand Yahushua at this point either)
Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
( Born of water is natural birth and notice this S capitalized, this is not just pneuma in the Greek this is Ruach Ha Kodesh, or Holy Spirit, now the Holy Spirit that we know had not been poured out on the earth yet, so that is not what Yahushua was speaking of, it was another Holy Spirit. A non dead, eternal soul that came from YHWH and was being placed into, at that time, some of the bodies of Israel. The only people that had not mixed with the Nephil races, or as much as the rest of the world, which had actually been seeded by what we are calling the Zetas and the Reptilains today.)
Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh;

( those spirits in bodies of men who are from fallen angels (Zetas and Reptialians) stay with the flesh and inhabit the earth until Father ends this age)
and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
( Those that are born and sent from YHWH stay His own and return to Him upon leaving the flesh)

Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
(He is saying, Why don't you know about this as a teacher and temple priest? Why don't you know that spirits and souls either come from YHWH and return to Him or are created here on earth and stay here to inhabit and haunt and attach to unwitting people, and to do the will of their fathers( Zeta's , Reptilians))

Joh 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

( this is just as real as the wind, which also cannot be seen with flesh eyes, but effects you and you know is real)

Joh 3:9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
Joh 3:10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

( again Yahushua is just amazed this man has never heard about this is all his years)
Joh 3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
Joh 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

( Yahushua was God in the Flesh and He could see things we cannot see, and Nicky is still just not believing this. Kind of like Mr. H, if he cannot see it, he cannot believe it. But He sees that Yahushua is different from other men, that is why he is approaching him, but he is doing it in secret, not in the open. He wants some proof. Yahushua has given him proof , He has been casting out demonics and healing the sick all over the place, this man has heard and seen it, but he is really having a hard time grasping and believing in something he cannot see)
Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

(Again same truth being given, one more time, Nicky, except Father take a living soul and put it into a man, then that man cannot return to Father and be a part of his kingdom. Now he is talking about that moment in time. He has some good news to tell NIcky about the future and what his own death will mean for all those dead spirits walking around trapped in this "prison planet" called Earth.)
Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: ( this is the foretelling of his death on the cross and His blood sacrifice being given for a good reason, this time, not to perpetuate the lies of Lucifer, as blood rituals are today)
Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

( Did you get it? All, Who so ever ( or for bb Evah, lol) that means all those dead folks walking around with dead spirits in them that came from their dead daddies will, in the future from this time, have the same eternal life and be able to walk into the very throne room of the Creator of the Universe, crawl up in His lap and call Him Daddy, Abba Father. Amen? Just like those who He actually placed into bodies and who came from him, equal status and love from YHWH to those redeemed dead "spirits".)
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

( This is the whole reason for Yahushua coming to earth, to die for these children born from abomination, so that they too can have the eternal life given to those YHWH created and placed into bodies. Because YHWH looked on them and had LOVE in His heart for them and wanted them for His own children, His own created life forms.)

Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
( so many people hate what I have to say, because it makes them see themselves as dead meat. I understand how that feels, I am dead meat too. I was born into Luciafarian blood lines. I have all these 16ths of my dna measured out to Askanazi and Russian Jew, and to blue blood races, 3 of those 16ths come from them, and to the American Indian, 1/16th there. But every one of those races are mixed, especially at this point with dead meat soulless, spirits bound for earth and condemned to it by decree from YHVW long long ago.)

Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
( Here is the deal. believe, that's it, it simple and easy, if you can have faith and trust, which we know for some is not easy and down right impossible, if they don't "let go" and just trust something they cannot see, feel or touch. But just the act of prayer and saying I will trust you, I will believe you are there. I will have this tiny measure of faith that you are listening and hearing what I am saying, God, will be enough to bring you to eternal life. It won't cost you anything except a couple of words said in the dark , by yourself, to an entity you really never believed existed, but... isn't it worth the cost? of nothing? Just try it and see what return you get. If I am as stupid and as wrong as you think I am, no one even has to know you listened to me and did this, except those things you don't believe exist any way, and you have all I know, just incase I am not as stupid as I seem. lol)

Joh 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Joh 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

( Here is the truth. We are born evil most of us anyway. Our fathers were angels that rebelled and came to earth and impregnated women never intended to be impregnated by Zetas and reptilians ( fallen angels) but were and are by their very birth, condemned as non living souls, but souls that were born dead and lived dead lives and then died in the flesh and had to stay here prisoners of earth to continue to do the will of their dead fathers. Those fathers had rebelled against YHWH and so they too were condemned and so that hate everything about Him and they hate when their children love their enemy YHWH, too.)

Joh 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

( But Yahushua came to redeem all these dead spirits, and free them from the bondage of the earth and their fallen angel daddies. And bring them into life and to be the children of YHWH instead)

Joh 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

(And we know that He did come to a cross and He did die on that cross and shed blood and then did the wonderful thing, overcame death, arose and walked and it was said that when he arose many dead people were seen walking the earth for a time. He began right away to free the dead from the earth and to give them living souls for dead meat, dead spirits and dead ancestry. And He did it for all of us. I know that this story has been told by thousands upon thousands of theologian in a very different way and that many of you think I am sooo stupid and I am. But Father has given me some very interesting and smart friends and allowed me to see some amazing things. Including being able to know many of you here, whom I have come to love in our differences, most of all.)

part 2

Day six of creation:

Gen 1:23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
Gen 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
Gen 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

So this man was made and he was given the earth to live in. He was to have dominion over the fish and the fowl and every other living thing on the earth. This man was not called by a name, only man. He was in the image of God, made like him and that word God there is Elloheem, a plural, or gods. I put to you that these are the fallen ones, that YHWH has put on the earth to live out their days. And these men are made to look like each of them. Notice that the words about YHWH breathing into the man the "breathe of life" is not stated. Neither is the word ADAM used. Adam means to show blood in the face. Here is the strongs for that word here translated man. And for the word God there used also.

From H119; ruddy, that is, a human being (an individual or the species, mankind, etc.): - X another, + hypocrite, + common sort, X low, man (mean, of low degree), person.

Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: - angels, X exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.

Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

then on the next day, the 8th day:

Gen 2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
Gen 2:6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Gen 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Gen 2:10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
Gen 2:11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
Gen 2:12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
Gen 2:13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
Gen 2:14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.
Gen 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
Gen 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

This man is Adam also, man, but in he is a man created to till the earth and to work the soil, a farmer. And in this man was the breathe of life given. The living soul place by the Hand of YHWH into the man. And now what happened? This man was the one that the enemy of YHWH came to and something happened in that garden. Something that made YHWH punish the man and the woman. The woman was told as part of her punishment that she would bring forth children in pain, The three questions that I asked Dex remember? Why did they cover their genitals? Why did YHWH talk to the serpent about his SEED? And why was the woman punished by giving painful birth?

I want to add a couple of thoughts about the Hebrew words used here. Trees , the old Strongs word for tree et, used to in the seventies have the words legs and arms. No longer does it have that reference in the meaning. The other Hebrew word is eth Ha, the 8th day adam has eth ha in front of his man adam , but the 6th day man does not. Eth ha, means THE man, a specific one, the one from the garden, if I may.

I pray that you all seek the Truth from all I have put to you and that you seek it with all your hearts, minds and souls.

Again the translators and the teachers have made this one adam, one man, when there are two. The coverup of the truth in the Word has caused so many who seek truth to turn away from these Words as false, and as they have been taught, I can understand why completely. It is when you uncover the hidden things that translation and men's traditions have added and taken away from them that truth springs to light. And then they have significant meaning for us all , even today and even on the Golden Thread.

part 3

I have to tell you this, it is so wonderful to share this with such brilliant minds.** you are right on the money with your train of thought, IMHO, that is. And you too ***** I love you .

And as I am prone to do, look to the language for the truth in myth. here is the word for rib:

צלעה צלע
tsêlâ‛ tsal‛âh
tsay-law', tsal-aw'
From H6760; a rib (as curved), literally (of the body) or figuratively (of a door, that is, leaf); hence a side, literally (of a person) or figuratively (of an object or the sky, that is, quarter); architecturally a timber (especially floor or ceiling) or plank (single or collectively, that is, a flooring): - beem, board, chamber, corner, leaf, plank, rib, side (chamber).

So what else in us is curved? That lil ol DNA strand. Curved curved curved.

Father does know all things, yes BB, but He also has a plan in includes letting us make mistakes. I call Him Father, because He is in the head of this house and He does provide for us, and I take all my questions and decisions to Him, based on some verses I chose unwittingly as a teenager. Proverbs 3: 5-7

Trust in YHWH with all your heart and lean not to your own understanding, In all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your path, Be not wise in Thine own eyes, Fear YHWH and depart from evil.

What YHWH did was to give Eve instruction . He told her not to TOUCH these "trees" and when you take that word touch back to the Hebrew it has a definite sexual connotation.

Eve had freewill and I have heard many "theologists" talk for hours on the "what if's" What if Even had obeyed? What if Adam had refused? I say this What if we give YHWH the credit He deserves and know that this plan was for the benefit of all.

I think especially the fallen fathers and those of their progeny and the beneficiaries of this fall of Adam and Eve, hence John 3 and Christ. Without whom all this these spirits would be facing death ,which is not death as we know it, but death as eternally separated from the source of LIFE : YHWH.

Had Eve not sinned and become separated, there would be no Christ, without Christ these creatures would have no eternal life.

That's just my understanding.

part 4

For my own life, I had a few problems early on, shall we say. My adopted father, the man who the government vetted and handed me over to when I was one day old, had a nasty little secret. He liked to fondle little baby girls. The term is infantofile,( so sick spell check won't even touch this). The amazing thing about God was, He had a plan for that. It wasn't striking the man dead, it was allowing a roaming spirit to actually step into my body and my mind, and for that spirit to remember that memory and deal with that situation. It was still my body and it was still my mind, until something came up that I couldn't deal with, then an American Indian man, about 6ft2 inches tall, with black eyes and double braids falling over his shoulders, buckskin breeches and a porcupine quill breast plate, to be more exact, stepped into my body and mind and I went somewhere else. I don't remember the green glow, TT, but I bet there was one. I do remember sitting in the top of a huge pine tree watching a black bear rob a white box of bees, once. I was 5 yrs old when I last saw this man, who to me was my hero. I had just asked Jesus to come in my heart and save me from my sin. I at age 5 had had a girlfriend for 2 years and we were hot and heavy into some sex. I knew it was "sin". How in the world did I know that? Susan was her name. It wasn't my last sin, but it was the last time I actually saw "my friend", because that is all I ever knew him as. I know now, they don't like to tell you their names. (kaballa) When they are forced to, then you can have control over them. ( wicca) The really weird thing about that experience was he asked Jesus to come into his heart too, that day. We did what a psychologist today would call, integrate. And for about 50 years, he and I faced the world together. Until I was ready to take all those memories from him and forgive all those who had done such unthinkable things to me. He asked me when that was all done, if he could leave. He had promised me that though I would not see him any more, that he would "always" be there. He asked permission to break that promise and to go, to Father, to YHWH.

Had Christ not died, he would not have ever had that chance. If he had not offered to come into my body to protect me, he would not have heard about Jesus either. I took him to church with me one dark Sunday night. He left just a few months ago and just last night in my prayers, I asked Father to tell him, that I really do miss him, and that after YHWH and then Jesus, he is my number 3 all time hero. If Eve had not screwed up in that garden then, none of that may have happened either.

Because those men and women that were created on day 6, they all became the subjects of the kings of the Nephil. The fallen ones had by the generations only 10 before the whole earth except for 8 individuals had mixed blood with the Nephil kings descendants.(Gen 5) And know this, when Cain was kicked out of the garden, he went to a city, a built and inhabited city full of people and he took him a wife there from those people. (Gen.4:16)

The story of the kingdoms and the cities and the kings has been all but destroyed from the texts we have today, but Deuteronomy 32, in the Septuigent comes as close to telling it as we get. (Dr. Mike Heiser did a great you tube study on that) Father YHWH actually gave the earth to these kings, I believe to the fathers of the kings when he kicked them out of "heaven" (His presence) . So not all the group was destroyed just the ones in the place that Father landed Noah and his family and their clean genes. And guess what? "They" still continued to mix after the flood with their descendants too. It was the hope to destroy any body capable of being able to have a living soul( go back to the beginning) put into it, so that Christ could not even be born. But that did not happen. Christ was born and life and hope were given to the dead souls of the dead fathers kids. And another miracle: Christ being cut off was made a promise. The promise of "progeny". Yes a seed of his own. And that did not happen like Mr. Brown told it. It is a miracle seed. It is a seed plucked out of the earth with all our mixed race and unclean births. In the final generation, Father said He would take the unclean mixed blood of the ADAM (mankind)(think how mixed it is now after all these generations if it was so hopelessly mixed after only 10, in Gen 6.)But that He would actually cleanse their blood. That means remove all the dna strands that came from the Nephil fathers from their dna, and make them able to have a living soul. One that would turn the hearts of the children back to the real Father. Lucifarians have taken this truth and twisted it. That is what wicked means. Twisted truth, just like the wick of a candle is twisted, and set alight, so that it seems to be truth, it has a basis in truth, after all. But they say, that Lucifer is the one that was "in the beginning" and that all this was made by his hand. That they are the only ones allowed to know the secret and that there is no such thing as sin, that you can "do what you will" and all will be well with them because they are the seed of LUCIFER. He was their father. Well, they did get that part right. Now do you understand why this world is so f-d up? why the hearts of so many are so black and how so many have no love for anyone but themselves?

Because there is sin and there are curses as a result of sin. YHWH gave us instructions. YHWH gave us a calendar, and its not solar. Every time you see the word month in the Bible, in Hebrew it is actually NEW MOON. The new moon is the signal for every new month and YHWH decides when the year will begin, by the grain growth in one place on earth, Jerusalem. It seems so complicated, but it is really simple and there are men called to do all the work for you so you can just look on the net and find out every new moon sighting there and when the grain is ripe enough to parch and eat and not be just husk, called Aviv.

Ever wonder why the enemy has so many 'holy days'? Because he is getting everyone to keep his unholy days and ignore the days that YHWH declared as holy. And trust me the creator of all this is the ONLY one that can declare anything holy or unholy. And He did. I suggest everyone read Deuteronomy if you want to be blessed, cause you might think you are, but you are not really unless you are doing what YHWH said to do in those verses. He says right there:

Deu 11:26 Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse;
Deu 11:27 A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day:
Deu 11:28 And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.

And who are those other gods?

They are the fathers. They are the reptilian fathers.oh and the nordic fathers and the blah , blah, blah fathers, little f. And unfortunately the christian church has you keeping every one of the fathers unholy days and are calling them holy. The feasts and not JEWISH . The feasts are feasts of YHWH.

Lev 23:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.


The LORD up there in that verse? that is what the translators use for YHWH and covocation, that means a meeting. An appointment. Like if you don't show up for , its noted. I know , I know, now I am stepping on toes. But you didn't know this stuff now did you? No body from the church bothered to tell you this stuff. Mostly cause they don't teach in their cemeteries, er seminaries.

The church is walking around in a curse, and the Jesus they are serving needs to be spelt like this: jesus. Cause this guy is telling them ,"do what you will" Does that sound familiar? Oh yes, you can sin all you want with this jesus, cause he died for your sin. Its twisting the words and the whole concept. Christ died to be the sacrifice of blood, instead of sheep and goats and bulls. That is the ONLY thing from the OLD part of the book that He changed. The Word that YHWH said back there about blessing and curses still stands. Jesus didn't change one word of it. He said in fact, Joh 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
Joh 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
Joh 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
Joh 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Joh 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
Joh 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

And don't go saying that was reduced to two, that again is another cemetery trick. Its says they all hang on two, loving YHWH and loving your fellow man, cause if you do both, then loving YHWH you will keep His commandments. And if you love your fellow man, YOU WILL KEEP YHWH's COMMANDMENTS and not sin against YHWH or MAN.

Things are coming to a head. The enemy has his holy days all lined up and this year they include a big party in London. The seat of the king of the serpents. The dragon, there are statues of him all over that place, hey RH? And he may have been defeated, but not yet subdued. His lease on the earth is still in effect, until that day when time will end. ( see the next study)

I really never thought I would have this opportunity here on the Golden Thread to say all these things. And if you feel angry at me after reading these words, you might want to see if you have any guilt about them. That is what I usually see happen, right before everyone starts gathering up there rocks. But I am thankful to L2L for this place and the permission to post this thread. I think YHWH will bless him for it. And I hope that you all who read it, ask Him to show you if any of what I am saying is true. Ask Him to show you and I promise you , He will.


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