Category Introduction : The "Alien" Lie

[Cyprium]

Powers of the Air

What is an "alien"? Incorrect assumptions in answer to this question have led to some confusion...perhaps intentional confusion on the subject and as a result has led non believers to imagine certain possible attributes of "extraterrestrials" which might be benevolent and belief in them provides some seeming evidence of there being no Sovereign Creator who has given His testimony to humanity. On the other hand, the confusion leads believers to reject without consideration all evidence pointing to the presence of extraterrestrial craft or the phenomena of abduction.

The assumption that aliens should be a flesh life form in possession of advanced technology that enabled them to reach earth from light years away is the prevailing idea in most people's minds when they hear the term "alien" and the most thought of representation of what these should look like are the well known "greys". Taking only the basic terms "alien" and "extraterrestrial", there is no actual insinuation that this must be the case, rather those terms only mean that such creatures must be non- native to Earth and have come originally from beyond it. Both of these terms can be applied without error to angelic beings.

This brings us to the assumptions people have about what angels are, which is perhaps as confused as the idea of aliens. Angels are generally thought of as ethereal, unsubstantial and are thought of to utilize mysterious forces of power unknown to man (not unlike magic). They are generally not considered to use or need to use conveyances or to work within a normal range of universal laws governing matter or energy. They are thought to flit about on gossamer wings all over the universe like invisible cosmic butterflies.

None of these assumptions come from solid evidence of what a spirit should be like or what they should do and how they do it but they are ideas so well accepted, even by believers who should know better than to construct extra-biblical concepts, that most can not wrap their minds around the possibility that an angel is something entirely different than their idea of them.

From ancient to medieval and beyond, artifacts and art has portrayed images of flying craft not unlike photos and drawings in modern times of witnessed "ufos". There is a strong correlation to be noticed between abduction experiences today involving removing sperm and eggs from subjects and the Watcher breeding experiments of the past. It is not difficult to see a striking resemblance between angelic beings and the modern extraterrestrial phenomenon.

If we begin to pay close attention to the media and entertainment, there is a noticeable trend proceeding from the propaganda machine which places aliens near the top of their priority and if we investigate the message that is being pumped to the masses it looks like this: aliens are benevolent, aliens genetically engineered humanity by mixing their dna with primates, aliens do not approve of the way humanity has treated the earth, aliens will step in to either direct humanity toward a next evolutionary step or they will destroy humanity or perhaps evolve some and destroy others.

This deceitful message is not a new one, it is a very old spin on the invasion and transgression of the Watchers which can be seen in Sumerian mythology. Having antiquity seemingly on the side of such theories leads wayward seekers down a path of assumption about the credibility of pagan mythology. As it is often stated that pagan mythologies "pre-date" judeo-Christian teachings, it is then held that the greater antiquity of certain pagan writings ought to be assumed more correct.

This comes from a lack of objective consideration of certain things, such as...1. If a true history in alignment with scripture is a fact then that history was well known before written records was a rule. 2. if any writing does exist which came from an original older than the oldest pagan material it is at the mercy of a community of scholars who have historically set their goals in direct opposition to providing evidence of scriptural truth. 3. the scriptural account of the history is supportable by evidence which can be collected and examined on a first hand basis rather than a list of "expert" opinions.

It is forewarned in scripture that in the last days mankind will be subject to a "strong delusion" a delusion so seemingly real and so pervasively believed that even the elect will almost fall for it. How would the world react if extraterrestrials made themselves a public and unavoidable fact and then made a claim backed up by antiquated pagan tradition and various fools gold evidences that they were indeed the Elohim of Genesis who created mankind and did so by taking their own genetic components and adding it to apes?

Might theie reception also be decided by their appearance? Among many ufo/alien buffs is a strong belief in a line of misinformation dealing with "races" of ETs. It is often reported that there are "greys" and "reptilians" which are malevolent but that a pretty blonde haired and blue eyed type called "Nordics" are friendly. Be very cautious what you decide is friendly...even your fellow man is capable of pretending friendship when it is not sincere and yet people tend not to consider that beings of greater age and experience than they could lie convincingly. Don't forget...those pretty blonde, blue eyed "aliens" are also called Watchers.

The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish because they did not receive the love of the truth that they might be saved. And for this reason Yahuwah will send them strong delusion that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
- 2 Thessalonians 2: 9-12

[David A. Peck]

@Sinclair
Thank you for the info.
I am somewhat new to the books/gospels thst were set aside, so the info helps thank you.

[Chris]

Thank you for the intro. If you can answer my question, I'd truly appreciate it: If I fall victim to the lawless one which took my eyes off the signs of the lying wonders keeping me busy for years  running, only to finally put all the pieces together, realizing the time we've been in since 2001 or prior, that it is the work of Satan as prophesied in these times, does this mean that I not in the book of life?

I pray daily for salvation, redemption and acceptance for myself and all of my ancestors, always thru Yeshua Christ Jesus for these things and for the blood of the lamb's protection. Its not working however. I need help. I grew-up going to church and bible study, and tried to return to this when the lawless one's began targeting me. I don't want to fall short of God.  Others are praying for me.

Thanks.

Chris

Cite: "The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish because they did not receive the love of the truth that they might be saved. And for this reason Yahuwah will send them strong delusion that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
- 2 Thessalonians 2: 9-12

[Bean]

Hi Chris.. welcome aboard :)  Cyprium will respond when he returns.. in the meantime, hopefully this will help..

Chris said:

If I fall victim to the lawless one

It is forewarned in scripture that in the last days mankind will be subject to a "strong delusion" a delusion so seemingly real and so pervasively believed that even the elect will almost fall for it.

True believers on Yahushua are 'the elect' aka 'the chosen' (both are the exact same word in the Greek).

The "strong delusion" is so effective that even true believers on Yahushua would almost fall for it.

Thankfully though, true believers on Yahushua will not fall for it... The only folks who do, are those who reject Him as their personal and only Savior.

So the thing we have to know, is whether or not we truly accept Yahushua as our personal and only Savior.

Here are some verses which may help explain..

• "If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you."  1John 15:19

• "And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days...  For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if possible, even the elect."  Mark 13:20,22

• "The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is."  Rev 17:8

• "And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.  And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for He is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with Him are called, and chosen, and faithful."  Rev 17:11-14

The "strong delusion" is... "...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.  And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."  2Thes 2:10-12

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me."  Jhn 14:6

I pray daily for salvation, redemption and acceptance for myself and all of my ancestors for these things

Are you Catholic, by chance..?  i was raised Catholic and we were taught to pray for our departed ancestors and loved ones, in case they were in 'purgatory'.. but i found out this is wrong.. no one needs to pray for anyone who has died, because they are no longer taking actions in this mortal life.. they have already finished their works on earth and gone to meet the Creator, and He has delivered them to one place or another...

Everyone has to be responsible for accepting Yahushua or not accepting Him.. it's not something we can choose for anyone else.. It's reassuring to remember, "The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:"  2Pet 2:9

and for ... protection.

Its not working however.

I need help. ... the lawless one's began targeting me.

What exactly is going on..?  It sounds like a spiritual attack situation.  Several members here have dealt with spiritual targeting and we want to help.

[Cyprium]

Hello Chris and welcome...

Rest assured that only one thing is the deciding factor of whether or not we are in the Lamb's Book of Life... and that is whether or not we have accepted Yahushua as our Savior.

The deceptions of this world are vast and multifaceted...it is safe to say that every one of us, at some point, is deceived by something that the enemy has invented to lead us astray.

Take into consideration the facade of democratic government or the adoration and dependance upon phamakeia in society. It is likely true that most self proclaimed Christians are under deception of at least one of those, but more times than not, that state of deception is truly a matter of ignorance and not an attitude of rebellion. In spite of that ignorance, many of those individuals are still genuine believers in Messiah.

You mention that you finally put the pieces together. See that as a very positive thing...Our Savior didn't leave you in ignorance, but delivered you out of it into truth, which He will do for any of His people who truly seek an answer.

Yahushua did not come to condemn...He understands that we live in the enemy's camp and He does not demand that we know it all...He just asks that we start with trusting in the simplest of truths...that no man comes to the Father but through Him. If you were under the strong delusion that is to overcome the unsaved, you would not now be concerned for the salvation of your soul in Messiah.

If you feel comfortable doing so, please expound on what has been going on in your life  so we know how we can help. If the forum is too public, feel free to send me a private message. :)

Peace in Yahushua



Chris said:

Thank you for the intro. If you can answer my question, I'd truly appreciate it: If I fall victim to the lawless one which took my eyes off the signs of the lying wonders keeping me busy for years  running, only to finally put all the pieces together, realizing the time we've been in since 2001 or prior, that it is the work of Satan as prophesied in these times, does this mean that I not in the book of life?

I pray daily for salvation, redemption and acceptance for myself and all of my ancestors, always thru Yeshua Christ Jesus for these things and for the blood of the lamb's protection. Its not working however. I need help. I grew-up going to church and bible study, and tried to return to this when the lawless one's began targeting me. I don't want to fall short of God.  Others are praying for me.

Thanks.

Chris

Cite: "The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish because they did not receive the love of the truth that they might be saved. And for this reason Yahuwah will send them strong delusion that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
- 2 Thessalonians 2: 9-12