If you have not read the article "The Breaking of Ouroborus" by Cyprium, i recommend beginning there before reading this, as much of what is written in this article will make better sense read second to this one.

The CERN LHC (large hadron collider) is a massive particle accelerator near Geneva Switzerland, costing 9 billion dollars to build. The goals of this machine are claimed to be aimed at understanding the answers to the fundamental questions of physics, including the hope of discovering the hypothetical Higgs boson. In theory, the Higgs boson, often called the "god particle", is a massive scalar elementary particle which gives all things mass. This particle would supposedly be the framework of all things existing in physicality.

The LHC intends to collide particles at a rate slightly under the speed of light and in the process will be potentially creating black holes, exotic matter and wormholes. The worried public has been reassured that nothing disastrous can occur from the experiments which they intend to do at CERN. It is assured, they say, that such things as black holes and wormholes would remain so incredibly small and exist for such a tiny fraction of time that they would be harmless and merely side effects of their intended goals.

So far, though the LHC has encountered many and strange interruptions which has prevented it from reaching it's full potential yet, it has already produced black holes.

"I can confirm that, yes, the first stages of the experiment resulted in the appearance of a miniscule black hole," said the spokesperson to gathered reporters on Monday. "The black hole is being kept under quarantine and our scientists have been monitoring its progression,"

http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/200914/3354/CERN-admits-bl...

CERN's large hadron collider is expected to produce wormholes as well. Wormholes are a means by which traveling through time is possible, though for one to be traversable it must be much larger than the subatomic size which CERN claims will be the only ones possible with their particle collider. The function of a wormhole can basically be understood by the analogy of piercing two ends of a piece of paper with a needle and then folding that paper so that those two holes connect. The necessity to travel across the paper's surface is bypassed, the paper itself representing time and space.

Two physicists, Irina Ya. Aref'eva, and Igor V. Volovich disagree with CERN's assurances that traversable wormholes are not the direction CERN is headed toward.

"We suggest that there is a possibility to test causality at the LHC. We argue that if the scale of quantum gravity is of the order of few TeVs, proton-proton collisions at the LHC could lead to the formation of time machines (spacetime regions with closed timelike curves) which violate causality. One model for the time machine is a traversable wormhole. We argue that the traversable wormhole production cross section at the LHC is of the same order as the cross section for the black hole production. Traversable wormholes assume violation of the null energy condition (NEC) and an exotic matter similar to the dark energy is required. Decay of the wormholes/time machines and signatures of time machine events at the LHC are discussed."

http://arxiv.org/abs/0710.2696

The LHC is now operating at 7 TeV (teraelecrtronvolts, 1TeV=i trillion electronvolts) with a stated goal of eventually reaching 14 TeV. It is argued that traversable wormholes could not be created on earth since the energy required would be something comparable to stellar explosions, though the amount of kinetic energy necessary to produce results of a certain kind within a collider are less than that required to produce the same results in space.

The formation of exotic matter would be necessary to the formation of a traversable wormhole as a result of the Casimir effect which is a sort of localized vacuum phenomena in which a mass negative region of space-time can exist. Exotic matter violates energy conditions, having negative mass or repulsion to gravity. At high enough energy of collision exotic particles can be formed and have been detected at the LHC.

Time in no straight line, it is a circuit and circuits repeat themselves. Why this should be is not questioned as much as whether it is but the fact that time is a circuit is observable with no doubt. It can be observed as simply as watching the eastern Horizon at sunrise on the morning of the Spring Equinox. As time passes, the sun rises through the houses of the zodiac in a circular pattern which eventually arrives back at it's beginning point. Why time exists in a cycling pattern is directly connected with the origin of sin and that there are beings, including Satan who are interested in maintaining a timepath which never exits into eternity and so to the judgment and defeat which is determined to them.

As these days give every sign of being the last days, Satan knows his time is short in a literal way. Knowing he will not be successful against the Most High, he knows that his chances only rest in a device to maintain or begin anew the next cycle. It would seem that this is what CERN"S Large Hadron Collider has been built to achieve. It is evident not only in the published science involved but the geometric design of the machine. CERN represents it's goals with a statue of Shiva. Shiva is a deity who represents death and rebirth, a being connected with the idea of a circuit of time which folds in on itself to meet end to beginning.


Octagonal Design

In Buddhism a symbolic object exists called a dharma wheel. It is an 8 spoked wheel that represents the noble 8-fold path to enlightenment. It is described as a way which leads to the ceasing of suffering and the achieving of a new and more enlightened consciousness which perhaps can be said to sound quite a bit like the promise of world peace in a "new world order".


The Dharma wheel is one version of the same symbolic reference in many occult traditions. An 8 spoked wheel was found in the tomb of William Sinclair at Roslyn Chapel in Scotland. The Sinclair family is known as one of the blue blood families which grew out of the Merovingian line with strong connections to the Templars and Freemasons. The Chapel was built to incorporate a great deal of Masonic and Templar symbolism. The 8 rayed star is the symbol of Ishtar, a human woman who was wife to a fallen Watcher and is considered a goddess by many names in many different pagan cultures. The octagon is found in Nazi symbolism and at the Vatican as well.





The symbolism of 8 and what its meaning is connected to a circle of time is found in an ancient inscription in Egypt.

"I am One who becomes Two,
who becomes Four,
who becomes Eight,
and then I am One again. "

8 is a number which universally symbolizes the new beginning following the close of a repetitive time sequence. The 8th day in weeks is also the first.

The design of certain components of the LHC will remind you of the symbols just spoken of.




The Aerial view of LHC will remind you of the Ouroborus


The Dharma wheel and 8 fold path is not simply a religious concept. Physics itself involves a theory called the the 8 fold way. This is a theory for organizing subatomic baryons (a composite particle made of three quarks) and mesons (made of one quark and one anti quark) into octets. Both of these particles belong to the hadron family.

It is most interesting to notice that the LHC has repeatedly been prevented from reaching it's intended potential by various strange circumstances which have even led some scientists to wonder if the machine was being sabotaged by itself from a future point or perhaps even time travelers who already understood the dangers of the thing. One occurrence was nothing more than a little bird who dropped a bread crumb into the machine. I believe it is neither the machine itself or time travelers but it is not coincidence either. I believe that YHWH Himself hinders their progress and it remains to be seen if there will come a point when He will allow them to attempt all that they design to do with it.

The latest thing to hinder the LHC's progress is an unknown vibration which they term "the Hump". It is a high frequency vibration between 31 and 38 KHz and has caused beam losses for the collider while in operation. CERN is not able to identify what the vibration is or where it might be coming from except that it either originates directly below or directly above the collider ring. It is just such a vibration as to cause the perfect means for disruption of the machine. It is my conclusion that He has drawn a line which will not be crossed except by His will at His timing if ever and even should this device accomplish to create a continued time loop, He has promised that His plan for eternity will not be thwarted.

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consider what it would take for Satan to orchestrate a deception so great, with 'signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.'.. Time looping may be what the enemy is hoping to use the LHC for.. but tearing the barrier between the dimensions of spiritual and earthly is something the enemy may very well use the LHC for.. Satan is not going to succeed in a plan to bypass judgment.. but according to scripture, Satan will succeed in a delusion so impeccable that if it were possible it would be able to fool even true believers on Yahushua..

 

thankfully in His Mercy though, there is truth, and there is hope.. even though we all may very well be in the midst of the tribulation.. as He has told us - 'he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.'.. and it is the prayer and hope of the operators of this site that all who are willing should come to repentance and be saved in Messiah.. and that the truth of His word should be glorified and the truth of reality should bebrought to light to give Him glory.. that is why this site exists. . the information herein.. regardless of whether it's archaeological, mathematical, or anything in between.. is given with the prayer that eyes will be opened, the enemy will be hindered, and the Savior will be glorified.

 

for clarification.. there is 'material' and there is 'immaterial'.. 'material' refers to Concrete Nouns - such as bodies (whether spiritual or otherwise)..

 

if Yahushua had not been material after His resurrection then He would have ceased to exist as a Being.. and therefore would have existed only as an Idea. - this thought of Messiah being immaterial (not literal) is a primary tenant of many false religions.

 

'immaterial' refers to Abstract Nouns such as love, compassion, hope - ideas which exist only as the result of choices and actions. a body is material no matter what dimension or state it is in.. if bodies were not Material they would be Immaterial and thus those bodies would not physically exist but would exist only as ideas.. things which cannot be seen, measured, handled..

 

has anyone ever held a conversation with an idea? there are spiritual beings which have been literally imprisoned as stated in Jude 6.. try literally putting love, hope or compassion behind bars..

 

the earthly body is not the same as the heavenly body.. and the spiritual body is just as material as the earthly body.. both are bodies, plain and simple, and a body is a material thing..not an idea, feeling or aspiration.. etc.

 

as 1Cor.15:40 states.. 'There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.'42 'So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:' 44 'It is sown a natural body and raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body and there is a spiritual body.'

 

verse 40 is the only place in the NT where the word 'celestial' is used..the Greek word here is 'epouranios' and it means 1) existing in heaven 2) of a heavenly origin or nature.

 

'epouranios' is found a total of 20 times in the NT.. 16 times it is translated 'heavenly'.. once as 'in heaven'.. once as 'high'.. and twice as 'celestial' (1Cor.15:40)

 

there is no difference between 'celestial' and 'heavenly' - both are the same Greek word with a single meaning.. the same principle is true regarding the word 'terrestrial'..

 

verse 40 is the only place in the NT where the word 'terrestrial' is used.. the Greek word here is 'epigeios' and it means 1) existing upon the earth, earthly, terrestrial.

 

'epigeios' is found a total of 7 times in the NT.. 4 times it is translated 'earthly'.. once as 'in earth'.. and twice as 'terrestrial' (1Cor.15:40)

 

1Cor.15:40 is the exact equivalent of 'There are also heavenly bodies, and bodies earthly: but the glory of the heavenly is one, and the glory of the earthly is another.'

 

the information on this site is for the purpose listed on the main page.. which is that this site is 'Dedicated to the truth regarding the final days before the return of Messiah, Watchers, Nephilim and the NWO, and the history of the earth that has led to this point'.. and i've read every article on this site by both Prodigal Son and Cyprium.. in most cases more than twice..

 

nowhere on this site have either of them ever encouraged anyone to base their trust in 'pagan knowledge and occult tradition' over the Word of YHWH, as you assert.. in addition, both have done nothing but work to expose the enemy and glorify the Savior, and to show love for their Creator, neighbor, enemy and the Truth - to all of which their works here attest.

 

Prodigal Son began this post with a word of advice.. 'If you have not read the article "The Breaking of Ouroborus" by Cyprium, i recommend beginning there before reading this..' - Perhaps you did not have a chance to read it.. in the article Cyprium makes the following statements:

 

'What Satan realizes and has realized since the moment that YHWH cursed him and predicted his downfall, is that there is an inevitable finale to his existence and the only way to have a chance of bypassing this finale was to somehow circumvent the process of time entirely.'

 

'You might be tempted to automatically say "that's impossible...the Creator would not let him do that." but we can't dismiss the fact that the Creator has allowed the freedom of his creation to choose to act upon good or evil in whatever their capacity is to do so. This does not mean that such a measure...or any measure, no matter how grand, can ultimately defeat His will ...but sinful beings can try.'

 

as you can see.. Cyprium is very clear about the fact that nothing Satan can do will Prevent Yahushua's return, or prevent the enemy's judgment, or prevent anything else in the Creator's will.

 

Prodigal Son makes the following statement in this LHC article:

 

' I believe that YHWH Himself hinders their progress [on the LHC] and it remains to be seen if there will come a point when He will allow them to attempt all that they design to do with it.

'It is my conclusion that He has drawn a line which will not be crossed except by His will at His timing if ever and even should this device accomplish to create a continued time loop,  He has promised that His plan for eternity will not be thwarted.'

 

'As these days give every sign of being the last days, Satan knows his time is short in a literal way. Knowing he will not be successful against the Most High, he knows that his chances only rest in a device to maintain or begin anew the next cycle. It would seem that this is what CERN"S Large Hadron Collider has been built to achieve.'

 

it's clear that Prodigal Son has the same opinion as Cyprium - that not only is Satan not able to defeat Messiah, but that Satan himself is subject to the Ultimate Authority and Sovereignty of our Savior.

 

telling the truth about sin and the enemy is something that our Savior did on a regular basis here on Earth..throughout the bible we are given details about sin and the enemy and Messiah's return. and the reality concerning sin and the enemy is in part proof that scripture is true..

 

Yahushua said He has foretold us all things concerning His return, save the day and the hour.. He gave a list of signs and commanded us to watch and pray.. the information on this site is centered around these things.. as noted in the site description on the main page.. 'Dedicated to the truth regarding the final days before the return of Messiah..'

 

Mark 13

 1And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here!

 2And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

 3And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately,

 4Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?

 5And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:

 6For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

 7And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.

 8For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.

 9But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.

 10And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

 11But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

 12Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death.

 13And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

 14But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

 15And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house:

 16And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment.

 17But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

 18And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter.

 19For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.

 20And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

 21And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:

 22For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

 23But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.

 24But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

 25And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.

 26And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

 27And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

 28Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near:

 29So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors.

 30Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

 31Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

 32But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

 33Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.

 34For the Son of Man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.

 35Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:

 36Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.

 37And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

 

Peace in Yahushua
Hi Bean.In  Your comment you said"if Yahushua had not been material after His resurrection then He would have ceased to exist as a Being.. and therefore would have existed only as an Idea. - this thought of Messiah being immaterial (not literal) is a primary tenant of many false religions."is false for a Person of  Christ or Son of God  pre-existed, ref. Heb. ch. 7 v3 ,Gosp. of John ch1 v1-3. and He, Son of God is not dependant on anyone's opinion or idea or anything else, material or not because He is I AM. Bean ,on this website there are numerous articles where pagan ideas are being used, take this article as example"The symbolism of 8 and what its meaning is connected to a circle of time is found in an ancient inscription in Egypt." or "The Dharma wheel is one version of the same symbolic reference in many occult traditions."I have read on this website  where someone is being told "The "Serpents" were unable to intermix with humanity until the Watchers came and introduced the technological capability to create hosts for them. Sound weird yet? , or "Rather i am referring to a hybrid line which was begun by angels of rank of Seraphim....which are described as "flying fiery serpents" these belong to the initial rebellion with Satan" , people are told they descended from serpents and watcher .2Tim.ch 2 v19."Nevertheless the solid foundation of God stands".Peace in  The Name of The Lord. mbernat

"for a Person of  Christ or Son of God  pre-existed, ref. Heb. ch. 7 v3 ,Gosp. of John ch1 v1-3. and He, Son of God is not dependant on anyone's opinion or idea or anything else, material or not because He is I AM."

The point is..He is not an abstraction...He is a real Being..one we'll see and touch and speak to. Your basic assumption is that spirit = abstraction. Is there any human being alive that can say they understand the nature of what spirit is or is that usually just taken on assumption that all things spiritual and heavenly are abstract, non tangibles? In the absence of any evidence that this is the case...simple observation should play some role. Heaven is not invisible to people on earth...it's observable by just looking up. You might not see the entire expanse of all that is "Heaven" from your vantage point, but what heaven is..is visible to natural eyes. The bible has no other definition for it.

"on this website there are numerous articles where pagan ideas are being used, take this article as example"The symbolism of 8 and what its meaning is connected to a circle of time is found in an ancient inscription in Egypt." or "The Dharma wheel is one version of the same symbolic reference in many occult traditions."

You greatly misunderstand what is being said in this article if you understand that to mean a pagan idea is being promoted. The people who would use this technology for such purposes Are Pagan...they Are Luciferian...and therefor what they are practicing is pagan and Luciferian. The connections made are to point out the inherently evil purpose of this technology...Not to endorse that as a belief.

As for angelic/ human hybridization or the descendants thereof..that's certainly not derived from a pagan source...that's biblical.

All that said... i assure you no one on here is promoting pagan beliefs and i believe that you would benefit from reading the articles you're discussing carefully and thoroughly. They are not written to be scanned for sure...most of them are long and some of them are a little complicated...they're meant to be thought about and researched when possible.

I would also recommend being careful not to bring condemning accusations against fellow confessed believers. That's something i seriously don't want to see going on here. For that reason i think that this discussion has probably gone on long enough and i'm going to close this for further comments. If there is something of this subject you'd like to further respectfully discuss you are welcome to open your own thread on it.

Not only will the inventors of such devices never try to use their inventions for good but even if we could Try to use something like that for good...we'd never really know what inadvertent harm we might do.   In some things...we just need to trust our Creator's will and that He answers to all the wrongs done in the world the right way, with all the information at His disposal.

No worries though... their plans are doomed to failure ultimately. No one can take anything (including us) out of our Savior's hand.

I can definitely relate to your feelings though...i've had the same thoughts...'if only i was in charge....'

God particle is 'found': Scientists at Cern expected to announce on Wednesday Higgs boson particle has been discovered

By Rob Cooper

PUBLISHED:

08:00 EST, 1 July 2012 | UPDATED:02:44 EST, 3 July 2012

Scientists at Cern will announce that the elusive Higgs boson 'God Particle' has been found at a press conference next week, it is believed.

Five leading theoretical physicists have been invited to the event on Wednesday - sparking speculation that the particle has been discovered.

Scientists at the Large Hadron Collider are expected to say they are 99.99 per cent certain it has been found - which is known as 'four sigma' level.

Physicists first predicted that the Higgs Boson subatomic particle exists 48 years ago.

Peter Higgs, the Edinburgh University emeritus professor of physics that the particle is named after, is among those who have been called to the press conference in Switzerland.

The management at Cern want the two teams of scientists to reach the 'five sigma' level of certainty with their results - so they are 99.99995 per cent sure - such is the significance of the results.

Tom Kibble, 79, the emeritus professor of physics at Imperial College London, has also been invited but is unable to attend.

He told the Sunday Times: 'My guess is that is must be a pretty positive result for them to be asking us out there.'

The Higgs boson is regarded as the key to understanding the universe. Physicists say its job is to give the particles that make up atoms their mass.

Without this mass, these particles would zip though the cosmos at the speed of light, unable to bind together to form the atoms that make up everything in the universe, from planets to people.

The collider, housed in an 18-mile tunnel buried deep underground near the French-Swiss border, smashes beams of protons – sub-atomic particles – together at close to the speed of light, recreating the conditions that existed a fraction of a second after the Big Bang.

If the physicists’ theory is correct, a few Higgs bosons should be created in every trillion collisions, before rapidly decaying.

For more on this article::

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2167188/God-particle-Scientists-Cern-expected-announce-Higgs-boson-particle-discovered-Wednesday.html

interesting timing.. 'independence day' i guess..

"Scientists in Geneva on Wednesday applauded the discovery of a subatomic particle that looks like the Higgs boson."

NY Times 'Physicists Find Elusive Particle Seen as Key to Universe'

Telegraph 'Something like the Higgs boson has been found – probably...

Discovery UPDATE (July 4): 'Higgs Boson Hunt: We've discovered some...

They really did discover something.

"During a live CERN announcement on Wednesday morning, representatives from the CMS and ATLAS detectors at the LHC detailed the discovery (to a 4.9 and 5 sigma significance in the CMS and ATLAS detectors respectively) of a previously unknown massive boson that resembles the Higgs. History has just been made."

http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/higgs-boson-cern1.jpg?w=620

http://impressions.static3.adqic.com/uploads/large/1341466995_a691.jpg

http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/peter-higgs-higgs-boson.jpg

This article did crack me up. The last few lines, says it all.

Scientists play God

"May I postulate they wouldn't know God if He hit them in the face with a wet fish and may I request they stop playing around wasting millions of dollars on their silly little games before they do something serious like create a black hole and all disappear into it? Or maybe that wouldn't be such a bad thing..."

http://english.pravda.ru/science/tech/04-07-2012/121566-scientists_...

Well, now that we are only days away from what could be a major transformation for this world, i was wondering what others here are thinking ?

The giants that once roamed this planet back in the days of Number 13:33 could be about to Gate through once again and cause havoc amongst the general populaces.

Funny to see u here in this place Tris as I came to post another's article on CERN that I read this morning and thought belonged with this thread and discussion.  And here is my old crew member one of those who helped me to see into the world of spirit commenting . I know beyond anything that our Father lives, watches and knows even the things done on a rarely visited website, this day.   First of all I agree that the days of time are drawing close to an ending.  As for what we have been taught by men, I am not so sure that we are going to see this opening and the angelic fallen ones appearing on earth during this "time" sequence.  Why?  because of what Peter and Jude who both in my opinion had real knowledge tell us:

2Pe 2:4 For if God did not spare sinning angels, but delivered them to chains of darkness, thrust down into Tartarus, having been kept to judgment;

Jud 1:6 And those angels not having kept their first place, but having deserted their dwelling-place, He has kept in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of a great Day;
Jud 1:7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them, in like manner to these, committing fornication, and going away after other flesh, laid down an example before-times, undergoing vengeance of everlasting fire.

So Judgment day is pronounced and will be kept by the Creator and tho men may have knowledge and power they will not prove Creator wrong, no matter what they do or know.

So here is the article posted here : http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=1337

that I thought should be read and included here in this thread.  Good to "see" u Tristan and thanks to u for all that you helped me with in the past and that continues to bless me daily.

HI STEPHEN, 

I HAVE SOME SPECULATION ABOUT CERN--HOW A PORTAL COULD BE OPENED VIA A HEAVEN EARTH CONNECTION THAT IS RATHER UNORTHODOX AS FAR AS MODERN SCIENCE IS CONCERNED--I MEAN IT REQUIRES BREAKING A "LAW OR TWO" OF THE ACCEPTED SCIENTIFIC DOGMA OF OUR DAY. 

PICTURE THIS. A MASSIVE EXPLOSION AT CERN---A SPONTANEOUS EXPLOSION OF THE ENTIRE LHC OR SPECIFICALLY "THE RING" LEAVING A GIGANTIC RELATIVELY PERFECTLY SHAPED ROUND HOLE--LIKE A BOTTOMLESS PIT---BUT IT WOULD GO "UP" AS WELL AS "DOWN". WE ARE TALKING AN ATYPICAL EXPLOSION HERE. SOMETHING THAT IS TOTALLY UNIQUE IN MANKIND'S HISTORY. IT IS A TYPE OF EXPLOSION THAT THE FALLEN ANGELS ARE FAMILIAR WITH AND IT IS THEIR ULTIMATE GOAL FOR CERN.? THE NATURE OF THIS "DISTURBANCE" IS TOTALLY UNIQUE IN THE UNIVERSE AND HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE SUBATOMIC WORLD---LIKE MATTER IS INSTANTANEOUSLY VAPORIZED IN A CIRCULAR PATTERN LIKE THE RING STRUCTURE AT CERN.--A HOLE THAT GOES "UP AND DOWN". 

THE SOURCE OF THIS HUGE DISTURBANCE/EXPLOSION WOULD BE RELATED TO THE SPEED OF LIGHT. SPECIFICALLY A HUGE DISTURBANCE THAT RESULTS FROM A PARTICLE THAT HAS MASS SUCH, AS A PROTON OR ELECTRON, OBTAINING THE SPEED OF LIGHT-- A PARTICLE WITH MASS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO OBTAIN SUCH A SPEED FOR VARIOUS REASONS. I AM AWARE OF THE SCIENCE THAT SAYS THIS SHOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE, BUT I AM NOT MUCH OF A FAN OF MAINSTREAM SCIENCE ANYWAY SO THIS IS SOMETHING I AM THINKING ABOUT. THERE IS A REASON WHY I PIC THE SPEED OF LIGHT AS THE SOURCE. I HAVE NOT EXPOUNDED ON THE FOLLOWING BEFORE AND I WILL JUST GET TO THE BOTTOM LINE CONCERNING WHAT I THINK ABOUT A CERTAIN GROUP OF FALLEN ANGELS. 

WHEN IT COMES TO THE SPEED OF LIGHT MOST DON'T TALK ABOUT THE "ARC SPEED" WHICH I UNDERSTAND TO BE 144,000 ARC MINUTES PER SECOND. 

COUPLE OF QUOTES: 

"Einstein calculated the speed of light at 300,000 kilometers per second. This calculation refers to light traveling on a flat plane in a vacuum. Our earth is no vacuum and is roundish. We also need to consider the force of gravity. Science has since refined that number into new terms, simple terms according to them. It is said that light travels at the rate of 144,000 arc minutes per second. This number is connected more with the frequency of light rather than the speed." 

"....That this is so is supported by Cathie's figure of 144,000: 144,000 minutes of arc equals 6.66 revolutions of the earth. This means simply that light travels 6.66 times around the earth in one second (144,000 divided by 60 (minutes) divided by 360 (degrees) equals 6.66 revolutions). "

SO ONE THING WE SEE HERE IS THAT LIGHT IS TRAVELING AROUND THE EARTH AT 6.66 REVOLUTIONS PER SECOND. A TRIPLE 6 "CIRCLE" AROUND THE EARTH---A TYPE OF THE OUROBOROS IN THE FORM OF TRIPLE SIXES! 

OKAY---SO HERE IS WHY I CHOOSE THIS SPEED/FREQUENCY OF LIGHT AS THE SOURCE OF DISTURBANCE---I THINK THAT THERE WERE 144,000 ARCHANGELS. I THINK THEY MADE UP THE STRONGEST CORE OF THE ONES THAT REBELLED WITH SATAN THROUGHOUT TIME AND ULTIMATELY THE LORD'S PLAN IS TO REPLACE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WITH SAINTS OBEDIENT TO CHRIST. I THINK THIS HAS BEEN THE LORD'S PLAN WITH THE LINEAGE OF ADAM AND EVE SINCE THE CREATION? I BELIEVE THE MAIN BATTLE IS OVER THESE 144K PLACES AND "THE RIVER". STEPHEN I THINK THAT THE RIVER WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HAS TO DO WITH THE 144K ARCHANGELS AND THE TIME TIMES HALF A TIME FORMULA. IN OTHER WORDS THE LENGTH OF THAT RIVER IS 144K "SEVENS"---TO SAY IT ANOTHER WAY I THINK THAT EACH ARCHANGEL IS "SPACED OUT" OR GIVEN HIS PLACE IN INTERVALS OF SEVENS FOR SPECIFIC REASONS THAT PERHAPS ONLY GOD KNOWS? 

SO ANYWAY, THE SPEED OF "ARC LIGHT" IS 144K BECAUSE THAT IS THE NUMBER OF "ARC" ANGELS. THE NUMBER OF ARCHANGELS AND THE ARC SPEED ARE DIRECTLY CORRELATED. (THESE 144K ANGELS ARE OF COURSE SUPPOSED TO BE OF HEAVEN AND NOT COMING TO EARTH TO HAVE RELATIONS WITH WOMEN!). NOW THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS THE SPEED OF A PHOTON--A LIGHT PARTICLE. THE ARCHANGELS SOMEHOW REPRESENT THIS SPEED/FREQUENCY OF LIGHT (PHOTON) CONCEPT AND THIS CONCEPT IS OF HEAVEN SO TO SPEAK. 

(THE BOOK OF ENOCH TALKS ABOUT 200 ANGELS THAT FIRST CAME TO EARTH VIA MOUNT HERMON, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS THE END OF THE STORY. I THINK THERE ARE SOME HINTS IN SCRIPTURE THAT POINT TOWARDS SOMETHING MORE.... SOMETHING TO DO WITH ZION AND A "CONTROVERSY" THAT I BELIEVE IS ABOUT THIS RIVER AND THE 144K ARCHANGELS.) 

NEXT THOUGHT: SO NOW WE WILL CALL THE PROTONS (ELECTRONS ETC) THAT THEY ARE SMASHING TOGETHER AT CERN "EARTH PARTICLES" BECAUSE THEY HAVE MASS OR "EARTH" AS OPPOSED TO THE "HEAVEN PARTICLE" WHICH IS THE PHOTON OR "THE LIGHT" WHICH HAS NO "EARTHLY DWELLING" OR PUT ANOTHER WAY---THE PHOTON HAS NO MASS. THE PHOTON/LIGHT/144K ARCHANGELS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO "INTERACT" WITHIN THE LOWER "EARTH PARTICLE REALITY"...

QUOTE:
"Every particle in our universe (including photons) move or ‘swim’ through what scientists call “the Higgs field”. As a result of this interaction, particles acquire their mass. Different particles interact with the Higgs field with different strengths, which is why some particles are heavier (have more mass) than others. Photons move through, but do not interact at all with the Higgs field." 


SO NOW READ PHOTON AS "ASCENDED LIGHT PARTICLE" OR PARTICLES OF HEAVEN SO TO SPEAK---"THE LIGHT". AND THE EARTH PARTICLES OF COURSE ARE NOT ASCENDED LIGHT PARTICLES. IF AN EARTH PARTICLE REACHES THE SPEED OF LIGHT--WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE "ASCENDED HEAVEN LIGHT DOMAIN"--THEN WE NOW HAVE AN ARTIFICIALLY ASCENDED EARTH PARTICLE OR AN INAPPROPRIATE HEAVEN AND EARTH "CONNECTION"!! SEE WHAT I MEAN? ON SOME LEVEL THE GOAL OF CERN (FOR FALLEN ANGELS) IS TO PROPEL AN "EARTH PARTICLE" TO THE SPEED OF LIGHT AND THUS MAKE A HEAVEN/EARTH CONNECTION..... PIERCING INTO HEAVEN! 

(PARTS OF MY THEORY COULD SEEM FACTUALLY INCORRECT OR NOT REALISTIC, BUT THIS IS SOMETIMES WHAT I DO WHEN TRYING TO FIND ATYPICAL ANSWERS TO ATYPICAL QUESTIONS. I IGNORE THE ACCEPTED RULES OF EVERYTHING AND SPECULATE.) 

AFTER PUTTING FORTH THIS IDEA I WILL NOW SAY I AM VERY SKEPTICAL OF A LITERAL EXPLOSION THAT CAUSES THE AFOREMENTIONED "HOLE". I THINK WE ARE DEALING WITH SOMETHING THAT IS MORE SPIRITUAL IN NATURE. WHAT WE ESSENTIALLY COULD HAVE IS A PORTAL CREATED FROM WHAT I WILL CALL A HEAVENLY DOMAIN EXPLOSION OR AN INAPPROPRIATE HEAVEN/EARTH INTERACTION/CONNECTION THAT RESULTS WHEN AN EARTH PARTICLE GOES TO THE PLACE OF A HEAVEN PARTICLE AND THUS CONNECTS THE TWO REALMS. ....SO USE THE LITERAL HOLE IMAGERY AND APPLY THAT TO A SPIRITUAL HOLE/PORTAL AND WE NOW SEE THAT THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A TOWER THAT REACHES UNTO HEAVEN ...AND PERHAPS "DOWN" TO HELL....? 

(SIDE NOTE: AS OF FEB 28th I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS E-MAIL FOR ABOUT A WEEK---THIS MORNING (THE 28th) THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE CAME OUT ABOUT CERN! "Four ways to break the universe's speed limit". IN THE ARTICLE THEY SAY THIS: "When objects travel faster than the speed of sound, they generate a sonic boom. So, in theory, if something travels faster than the speed of light, it should produce something like a "luminal boom." THIS IS ESSENTIALLY EXACTLY WHAT I AM PROPOSING, BUT THE "LUMINAL BOOM" WILL RESULT IN WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN IN THIS E-MAIL!! THE TIMING OF THE CERN ARTICLE MAY NOT BE A COINCIDENCE.....? THE AUTHOR DISCUSSES THE BLUE COLOR CREATED WHEN PARTICLES TRAVEL FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT IN WATER SO PARTICLES CAN GO FASTER UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES---WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH HERE IN CONTEXT OF ARC SPEED AND CERN HAS TO DO WITH THE CIRCULAR NATURE/ENVIRONMENT THAT THE RING STRUCTURE OF CERN PROVIDES AND SPEED OF LIGHT IN CONTEXT OF THE RING OR "ARC" OR "OUROBOROS".....! THE HEAVEN/EARTH CONNECTION MADE WITHIN THE RING STRUCTURE OF CERN MAY BE PART OF THE KEY TO OBTAINING THE INAPPROPRIATE AND ADULTERESS "HEAVEN--EARTH CONNECTION"? EVEN TODAY MANY PEOPLE WEAR RINGS AS A SIGN OF MARRIAGE....WHY?) http://www.businessinsider.com/what-can-travel-faster-than-the-spee...


DOES THIS "HEAVENLY EXPLOSION" CREATE SOME SORT OF "WATERY ENVIRONMENT" THAT IS LIKE WHAT WE SEE IN THE PORTALS OF STARGATE? KEEP IN MIND CERN IS 17 MILES IN CIRCUMFERENCE AND 17 SYMBOLIZES, AMONG OTHER THINGS, WATER OR A FLOOD FROM THE DAYS OF NOAH! "Genesis 7:10 And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth. 11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened." ARE THE "WINDOWS OF HEAVEN" ACTUALLY WATERY PORTALS THAT WERE "OPENED" AND ALL THE WATER POURED FORTH UNTO THE EARTH?


...NOW THE HUGE EFFECTS I DESCRIBE FROM GETTING ONE "TINY EARTH PARTICLE" INTO THE DOMAIN OF AN "ASCENDED PHOTON" MAY SEEM LIKE AN EXAGGERATION, BUT KEEP IN MIND WE ARE BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT PLACING SOMETHING EARTHLY (THAT ABSOLUTELY SHOULD NOT BE IN THE "ASCENDED HEAVENS") IN A PLACE THAT IS VERY VERY WRONG!! THIS IS AN "OUT OF PLACE" THING. LIKE THE DAYS OF NOAH WHEN THE FALLEN ANGELS LEFT THEIR FIRST ESTATE/PLACE! THIS IS A MASSIVE AFFRONT AGAINST THE LORD GOD AND HIS SPIRIT--AGAINST THE TRINITY. HEAVEN IS GOD'S ABODE SO EVEN ONE TINY PARTICLE "FROM BELOW" IS NOTHING SMALL WHEN WE ARE DEALING WITH THE HEAVENS AND THE LIVING GOD OF ETERNITY!! 

SPEAKING OF TRINITY--WE SEE A TRINITY SIGNATURE WITHIN CERN BECAUSE IT INVOLVES THREE MAIN RINGS TO ACCELERATE THE EARTH PARTICLE--THREE RINGS THAT IT PORTRAYS IN IT'S LOGO AS 666! IF A PORTAL USING AN EARTH PARTICLE WERE INDEED CREATED YOU COULD SAY THAT IT IS A "666 PORTAL". THIS COULD EVEN BE RELATED TO THE 6.66 REVOLUTIONS OF ARC LIGHT PER SECOND--AGAIN HERE WE ARE DEALING WITH A CIRCULAR PATTERN! IN CONTEXT OF CIRCLES, 3.14 CAN BE SEEN AS 3 TIMES 14 WHICH IS 42--THE NUMBER OF MONTHS THE ANTICHRIST IS GIVEN IN REV. 13. THIS 42 MONTHS COULD ACTUALLY BE RELATED TO A CIRCLE OR OUROBOROS IN SOME FASHION? FOR THAT MATTER HIS GIVEN TIME COULD BE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE "3.14 CIRCLE OF CERN" AND HOW THEY MANAGE TO BREACH THIS REALITY IN THE FIRST PLACE! IT COULD BE THAT THEIR BEGINNING IS ALSO THEIR END ....ALMOST LIKE AN IRONIC OUROBOROS! AND JUST TO ADD TO THIS IRONY 3.14 IS CALLED "PIE" AND PIE IS GENERALLY CUT INTO 8 PIECES JUST LIKE THE DHARMA WHEEL LOOKING STRUCTURE AT CERN.... 

YOU COULD SAY THAT THE LOWER EARTH PARTICLE IS "UNCLEAN" AND THEY ARE TRYING TO PUT SOMETHING UNCLEAN DIRECTLY INTO HEAVEN. ..."A MIGHTY HUNTER BEFORE THE LORD". SEE---IN THIS CONCEPT WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT DISTANCE TO REACH HEAVEN IN THE SENSE OF CONSTRUCTING A TALL BUILDING. WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS "REACHING HEAVEN" BY CREATING IN INAPPROPRIATE CONNECTION TO HEAVEN! THE "DISTANCE" IF YOU WILL IS THE POINT OF INTRUSION OF THE EARTH PARTICLE INTO "PHOTON HEAVEN". THE RESULT IS A "MARRIAGE" OF HEAVEN AND EARTH PARTICLES JUST LIKE THE DAYS OF NOAH USING A DIFFERENT METHODOLOGY! 

BOTTOM LINE IS THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT CERN BEING A HUGE "GUN" TO SHOOT AN EARTH PARTICLE "OUT INTO" THE HEAVENS BY GETTING IT UP TO THE SPEED OF LIGHT AND ESSENTIALLY PIERCING THE HEAVENS LIKE BLOWING A HOLE INTO A DIMENSIONAL WALL AND THUS CREATING AN "ADULTEROUS HEAVEN/EARTH CONNECTION". THIS IS THE STUFF OF THE PIERCING DRAGON!! A PIERCING PROJECTILE OR "ARROW" SHOT OUT OF THE CERN GUN TO THE SPEED OF LIGHT TO BREAK THROUGH TO HEAVEN--NIMROD THE HUNTER! STEPHEN I THINK THAT CERN IS ESSENTIALLY SHOOTING PROJECTILES AT GOD'S HOME! HUNTING "BEFORE" THE LORD! THEY HAVE NOT COMPLETED THE TASK--AS OF NOW THEY HAVE ACHIEVED SOMEWHERE AROUND 99.99+ % THE SPEED OF LIGHT SO YOU COULD SAY THAT CERN HAS "BEGUN TO BECOME A MIGHTY GIBBOWR BEFORE THE LORD'! BUT THE TASK IT NOT YET COMPLETE. AND KEEP IN MIND--THIS IS IN A RING, SO IT IS "ARC SPEED" NOT LIGHT SPEED IN A VACUUM--THIS MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE SPIRITUALLY SPEAKING....

IS THIS A REFERENCE TO NIMROD AND STARGATES?
MICAH 5: ...5 And this man shall be the peace, when the Assyrian shall come into our land: and when he shall tread in our palaces, then shall we raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men. 6 And they shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword, and the land of Nimrod IN THE ENTRANCES thereof: thus shall he deliver us from the Assyrian, when he cometh into our land, and when he treadeth within our borders".


MIKHAEL

Mar 1, 2015

 

@Bets

"Funny to see u here in this place Tris"

Lol. Its just that i believe that portals have been opening up since Dec 22 2014. This CERN one is the big official one where afterwards no one will be able to deny the existence of giants, titans, elves (watchers), sirens, succubus's, incubus's + 9 other types of angels.

i believe demonic possession will be a new craze, where many humans will think its so cool whilst visible negative entities drift by.

''Good to "see" u Tristan'

May i ask what you mean by 'see'. Are you able to visibly see me. Crazy question, but some really weird things have happened recently like being accused of sending Baalzebub to a person just by focusing on her avatar picture or learning how dangerous astral travel really is or finding out how Tarot cards get read in real time whilst the reader and person are in 2 different countries with the Atlantic between them.

back on topic :) 

CERN is where the World Wide Web was born 26 years ago.. in March.. And will be re-started at almost double the collision energy of its previous run.. this year.. in March..

http://info.cern.ch/

http://info.cern.ch - home of the first website

From here you can:

March 1989

  • First project proposal written and circulated for comment (TBL) . Paper "HyperText and CERN" (in ASCII or WriteNow format) produced as background.
  • October 1990
  • Project proposal reformulated with encouragement from CN and ECP divisional management. RC is co-author.

November 1990

  • Initial WorldWideWeb prototype developed on the NeXT (TBL) .

November 1990

  • Nicola Pellow joins and starts work on the line-mode browser . Bernd Pollermann helps get interface to CERNVM "FIND" index running. TBL gives a colloquium on hypertext in general.

Christmas 1990

  • Line mode and NeXTStep browsers demonstrable. Acces is possible to hypertext files, CERNVM "FIND", and internet news articles.

Febraury 1991

  • workplan for the purposes of ECP division.

26 February 1991

  • Presentation of the project to the ECP group.

March 1991

  • Line mode browser (www) released to limited audience on priam vax, rs6000, sun4.

May 1991

  • Workplan produced for CN/AS group

17 May 1991

  • Presentation to C5 committee. General release of www on central CERN machines.

12 June 1991

  • CERN Computer Seminar on WWW.

August 1991

  • Files available on the net, posted on alt.hypertext (6, 16, 19th Aug), comp.sys.next (20th), comp.text.sgml and comp.mail.multi-media (22nd). Jean-Francois Groff joins the project.

October 1991

  • VMS/HELP and WAIS gateways installed. Mailing lists www-interest (now www-announce) and www-talk@info.cern.ch started. One year status report. Anonymous telnet service started.

December 1991

  • Presented poster and demonstration at HT91 . W3 browser installed on VM/CMS. CERN computer newsletter announces W3 to the HEP world.

15 January 1992

  • Line mode browser release 1.1 available by anonymous FTP. See news . Presentation to AIHEP'92 at La Londe.

12 February 1992

  • Line mode v 1.2 annouced on alt.hypertext, comp.infosystems, comp.mail.multi-media, cern.sting, comp.archives.admin, and mailing lists.

May 1992

  • Presentation and demo at JENC3 (Innsbruck). Carl Barker joins the project.

June 1992

  • Presentation and demo at HEPVM (Lyon).

July 1992

  • Distribution of WWW through CernLib, including Viola. WWW library code ported to DECnet. Report to the Advisory Board on Computing.

August 1992

  • introduction of CVS for code management.

''Good to "see" u Tristan'

May i ask what you mean by 'see'. Are you able to visibly see me. Crazy question, but some really weird things have happened recently like being accused of sending Baalzebub to a person just by focusing on her avatar picture or learning how dangerous astral travel really is or finding out how Tarot cards get read in real time whilst the reader and person are in 2 different countries with the Atlantic between them.

 

No I don't actually see u.  Its just that I saw your post here when I came to post something in this section.

I don't know why any one would think u would want to send them a demon.  Most likely it is a demon that is telling them a lie, perhaps many.  I am so thankful for the round robin time , you and I and others here had for learning about spirits.  The one thing I learned is that they are everywhere and always trying to influence us.  The choices we make tho, are our own.  We can always choose to walk in the ways of YHWH and when we do, the spirits flee, for a while, then return to see if they can cause us to stray from the path of righteousness.

I am thankful again for your cooperation back then when I was struggling to understand.  Praying that you know that most spirits attack us through people in the flesh.  Its those who allow spirit to led them into saying things to you like the woman's accusation that for me show what spirit is leading a person, even one who claims to be a Christian.  Those who deny spiritual influence as well, are setting themselves up for spirit to lead, rather than Spirit to fill.  

Those words from Paul come to mind about edification.

Rom 14:16 Then do not let your good be spoken evil of.
Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.
Rom 14:18 For the one serving Christ in these things is pleasing to God, and approved by men.
Rom 14:19 So then let us pursue the things of peace, and the things for building up one another.

Peace Tristan.

Sorry if our few words seem to derail this thread, bean, but I had to respond to my brother in arms.  There are five pages of words on CERN, our few will not keep the whole from being seen.

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