The NDM-1 Super Bug: Is It a Real Threat? - Time No Longer2024-03-28T16:16:14Zhttp://timenolonger.ning.com/forum/topics/the-ndm1-super-bug-is-it-a?commentId=5124148%3AComment%3A2503&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=nooh save me, a killer enzyme t…tag:timenolonger.ning.com,2010-08-16:5124148:Comment:25302010-08-16T21:56:15.000ZDissident Mutthttp://timenolonger.ning.com/profile/DissidentMutt
oh save me, a killer enzyme that doesn't respond to antibiotics! i don't get it, why are people afraid of this? the day the pharmaceutical industry can't find a market for their antibiotics and other pills, i'll throw a party. you're all invited.<br />
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i've managed to survive what i can only imagine was the bird flu once, the swine flu another time, a serious tooth abscess and a broken hand without ever seeing a doctor or being prescribed any drug. If my Maker can't fix it, what's a quack going to…
oh save me, a killer enzyme that doesn't respond to antibiotics! i don't get it, why are people afraid of this? the day the pharmaceutical industry can't find a market for their antibiotics and other pills, i'll throw a party. you're all invited.<br />
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i've managed to survive what i can only imagine was the bird flu once, the swine flu another time, a serious tooth abscess and a broken hand without ever seeing a doctor or being prescribed any drug. If my Maker can't fix it, what's a quack going to do?<br />
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someone once tried to drive me to the hospital against my will until i said that i'd consider it a matter of self defense if anyone there tried to touch me and i'd react accordingly. yeah, live without doctors, i can handle that. It is unfortunately true that…tag:timenolonger.ning.com,2010-08-15:5124148:Comment:25242010-08-15T22:41:43.000ZProdigal Sonhttp://timenolonger.ning.com/profile/ProdigalSon
It is unfortunately true that most people can be easily frightened by the idea of a disease which cannot be treated with drugs. few will think carefully about a headline which says something like "new superbug can not be stopped with any known drug." no known drug effectively treats a head cold, yet they are certainly not deadly ailments. words in headlines can work so well on a state of mind which already recognizes mainstream medicine as the only way to remedy a physical problem.<br />
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it is very…
It is unfortunately true that most people can be easily frightened by the idea of a disease which cannot be treated with drugs. few will think carefully about a headline which says something like "new superbug can not be stopped with any known drug." no known drug effectively treats a head cold, yet they are certainly not deadly ailments. words in headlines can work so well on a state of mind which already recognizes mainstream medicine as the only way to remedy a physical problem.<br />
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it is very likely that most who are or will be afraid of this are people who will not bother to understand that there is no new virus or new bacteria, only an anomalous enzyme.<br />
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<cite>Bean said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://timenolonger.ning.com/forum/topics/the-ndm1-super-bug-is-it-a?commentId=5124148%3AComment%3A2503&xg_source=activity#5124148Comment2488"><div>NDM-1 is "..a gene which promotes the production of an enzyme.." my first question is - "where did this gene come from?" - since genes don't just 'show up' on their own.. second - with at name that sounds like "End 'em", what scenario will it generate.<br/> <br/>
apparently the gene and the enzyme are only dangerous to antibiotics.. which are dangerous to people.. so neither the gene nor the enzyme would seem dangerous to people. (people in general probably won't explore that aspect for what it is)<br/>
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H1N1 was a combination platter cooked up in a lab.. NDM-1 is a gene which has just 'appeared,' spreading through bacteria..<br/>
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i think the general public scarcely cares where the gene could have come from and why, or what it's causing as long as the Beast marketing slogan runs along the lines of "we have an antidote" (maybe that one-size-fits-all blanket coverage policy, that will insure not only from the damage of E coli, but also any other collision with infectious illness.. it could be the trendy answer to so many prescription problems)<br/>
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with a supposed 'vaccine' in sight.. in their minds people would see "super-antidote for super-bug", which for many would translate to a done deal in doctor's offices, pharmacies and school infirmaries world-wide.<br/>
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right now it seems the short-term outcome of what would happen if the PTB ended up running with NDM-1 hysteria would depend on how many lost lives were immediately attributed to it, and how much initial fear could be generated from it.. fear has that lengthy half-life, so that would help the routine exploitation long-term, with the bonus of adding another nail into humanity's immune system coffin.<br/>
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if the 'cure' included nano-particles.. suffice to say that would be a horror show all its own.. especially if those particles were remote-controlled at a later date.<br/>
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for decades now the controllers have been herding people with the 'pandemic' prod.. one of the Air Force contingencies included 30 million dead in an influenza pandemic in 2009, and from '10 to '12, the UN being dissolved and a Wall Street collapse.. info on that <a href="http://www.fas.org/spp/military/docops/usaf/2025/af/a-f-5.htm">here</a>.. despite what lines the military are fed.. the end catch is always humanity on the hook.<br/>
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i'd imagine there is a sort of sliding supply-and-demand type of ruler for measuring what to do, to whom, where and how, and that variations on plans are not written in stone so things like 'pandemics' and mass inoculations fluctuate on a scale of opportunity.<br/>
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i hope NDM-1 comes to nothing and hopefully people will take hold of the fact that it's an enzyme-producing gene, the ramifications of that, and the truth about what a supposed counter-drug would really be, and the effects of that.<br/>
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i do think that the enemy's plans are routinely thwarted by the Creator's hand and it could be amazing on that day when everything's revealed, to see how much of His fighting we did not recognize or know about, despite how things may seem in the temporary world now.</div>
</blockquote> I believe that the elite perh…tag:timenolonger.ning.com,2010-08-14:5124148:Comment:25032010-08-14T20:39:27.000ZCypriumhttp://timenolonger.ning.com/profile/Cyprium
I believe that the elite perhaps really did believe that the threat of a pandemic would drive people to comply with whatever mandatory vaccination plan they might have had, but that upon testing that by throwing out the rumors that it might come to that, the response they received was such that they understood it wasn't going to work.<br />
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I give a lot of credit for that refusal which dampened their plans to health care workers. They were the "beta test" more or less..them being mandated to be…
I believe that the elite perhaps really did believe that the threat of a pandemic would drive people to comply with whatever mandatory vaccination plan they might have had, but that upon testing that by throwing out the rumors that it might come to that, the response they received was such that they understood it wasn't going to work.<br />
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I give a lot of credit for that refusal which dampened their plans to health care workers. They were the "beta test" more or less..them being mandated to be vaccinated would seem the most acceptable group of people to force to do this in the public eye. If they had complied without a fight, other safety workers, law enforcement and finally the public would have followed. Many health care workers refused though..even to the point of taking it to court. It became an issue that made it to mainstream media and that, i think, was when they knew the gig was up.<br />
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Since there are now a great number of people who would refuse a vaccine even if the threat of pandemic was real and in their face...i imagine it would take some incredible acrobatics of the best performance the beast system could manage to make such a thing ever come close to working again, unless it was simply a matter of lethal force.<br />
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They did find at least Something to do with all their H1N1 crap..they're putting it in the seasonal flu shot this year and recommending Anyone 6 months or older take it. Ridiculous. I hope parents are generally smarter than to shoot up their 6 month old infants with that poison..<br />
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<cite>Uncool Sam said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://timenolonger.ning.com/forum/topics/the-ndm1-super-bug-is-it-a?commentId=5124148%3AComment%3A2480&xg_source=activity#5124148Comment2480"><div>I believe it to be just another money making lie.<br/> <br/>
Like you said "These are the worries which might plague people".<br/>
Worries == the classic never fail 'rumours' that we all know quite well.<br/>
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Even the previous H1N1 idea didn't materialise. The logical panic theory was this:<br/>
1) Flu breaks out in Mexico.<br/>
2) Spreads very fast via inter-continental air flights (SARS virus was a dry run).<br/>
3) Everyone watches MSM and naturally believes the lies.<br/>
4) Untested innoculation is manufactured and is made available.<br/>
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Now this is where (I thought) the cunning elitist idea comes in.<br/>
5) Whistleblowers shout "don't take it".<br/>
6) Innoculated people do not die in their millions. This makes the whistleblowers look like sheppards 'crying wolf'.<br/>
7) The innoculation drug actually breaks down the body immunity system in some way.<br/>
8) The second flu-virus (much stronger - yet another rumour) comes along that kills everyone that got innoculated.<br/>
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I thought the second attack was a valid idea. It made sense. Make people panic, they get innoculated and the mutant strain (second wave) kills them off because the natural immunity system has been compromised.<br/>
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The reason it failed was either it wasn't meant to be a killer or the elite didn't try hard enough. I think the innoculation cost money and in the current recession people do not have money. Result: people would rather die happy on a spending spree at the shopping mall, instead of wasting money on a drug that might not work.<br/>
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Remember the SARS virus panic. It was probably another dry-run to see how quickly a virus could spread.<br/>
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I am surprised terrorists havn't used this idea.<br/>
1) Terrorists inject themselves with virus.<br/>
2) Gets on plane to New York.<br/>
3) Virus is not metal (by pass metal detectors) and doesn't destroy the body system until 24 hours later.<br/>
4) They land and bam, the guy starts sneezing throughout New York. One sneeze in Grand Central Station and a million people are infected in 10 seconds.<br/>
5) The terrorist dies which is basically a standard suicide mission which idiots do anyway. Instead of a suicide bomb it is a flu virus.<br/>
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I was shocked because it didn't happen. It was a perfect idea.<br/>
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This one is just another rumour, just like all of the others.<br/>
I still remember the H1N1 (mega) outbreak in Ukraine. All borders were being closed. Again it was all a rumour.<br/>
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I say 'if it is speculation, then it is another lie. If it is happening (with real pictures on MSM) then it is true'. In other words this virus is a rumour and the wierd weather around the world is probably scalar weaponary or a result of the planet being hit by that huge solar flare in early August.</div>
</blockquote> the '09 Air Force scenario ci…tag:timenolonger.ning.com,2010-08-14:5124148:Comment:24972010-08-14T18:52:10.000ZBeanhttp://timenolonger.ning.com/profile/BornAgainNerd
the '09 Air Force scenario cited above is part of the "Alternate Futures for 2025" report - the specific category being the "Digital Cacophony" world.. "a world completely enmeshed in technology" as it notes.. where "Technological advances are rampant and the world struggles with rapid change and its effects.."<br />
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"..As seen in figure 5-2, the year 2000 was a benchmark in many ways. For the first time, the world was "wired," and anyone could gain…
the '09 Air Force scenario cited above is part of the "Alternate Futures for 2025" report - the specific category being the "Digital Cacophony" world.. "a world completely enmeshed in technology" as it notes.. where "Technological advances are rampant and the world struggles with rapid change and its effects.."<br />
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"..As seen in figure 5-2, the year 2000 was a benchmark in many ways. For the first time, the world was "wired," and anyone could gain access to worldwide information.12 This development exacerbated social unrest globally as have-nots learned how little they had compared to the well off." NDM-1 is "..a gene which prom…tag:timenolonger.ning.com,2010-08-14:5124148:Comment:24882010-08-14T18:10:23.000ZBeanhttp://timenolonger.ning.com/profile/BornAgainNerd
NDM-1 is "..a gene which promotes the production of an enzyme.." my first question is - "where did this gene come from?" - since genes don't just 'show up' on their own.. second - with at name that sounds like "End 'em", what scenario will it generate.<br />
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apparently the gene and the enzyme are only dangerous to antibiotics.. which are dangerous to people.. so neither the gene nor the enzyme would seem dangerous to people. (people in general probably won't explore that aspect for what it is)<br />
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H1N1…
NDM-1 is "..a gene which promotes the production of an enzyme.." my first question is - "where did this gene come from?" - since genes don't just 'show up' on their own.. second - with at name that sounds like "End 'em", what scenario will it generate.<br />
<br />
apparently the gene and the enzyme are only dangerous to antibiotics.. which are dangerous to people.. so neither the gene nor the enzyme would seem dangerous to people. (people in general probably won't explore that aspect for what it is)<br />
<br />
H1N1 was a combination platter cooked up in a lab.. NDM-1 is a gene which has just 'appeared,' spreading through bacteria..<br />
<br />
i think the general public scarcely cares where the gene could have come from and why, or what it's causing as long as the Beast marketing slogan runs along the lines of "we have an antidote" (maybe that one-size-fits-all blanket coverage policy, that will insure not only from the damage of E coli, but also any other collision with infectious illness.. it could be the trendy answer to so many prescription problems)<br />
<br />
with a supposed 'vaccine' in sight.. in their minds people would see "super-antidote for super-bug", which for many would translate to a done deal in doctor's offices, pharmacies and school infirmaries world-wide.<br />
<br />
right now it seems the short-term outcome of what would happen if the PTB ended up running with NDM-1 hysteria would depend on how many lost lives were immediately attributed to it, and how much initial fear could be generated from it.. fear has that lengthy half-life, so that would help the routine exploitation long-term, with the bonus of adding another nail into humanity's immune system coffin.<br />
<br />
if the 'cure' included nano-particles.. suffice to say that would be a horror show all its own.. especially if those particles were remote-controlled at a later date.<br />
<br />
for decades now the controllers have been herding people with the 'pandemic' prod.. one of the Air Force contingencies included 30 million dead in an influenza pandemic in 2009, and from '10 to '12, the UN being dissolved and a Wall Street collapse.. info on that <a href="http://www.fas.org/spp/military/docops/usaf/2025/af/a-f-5.htm">here</a>.. despite what lines the military are fed.. the end catch is always humanity on the hook.<br />
<br />
i'd imagine there is a sort of sliding supply-and-demand type of ruler for measuring what to do, to whom, where and how, and that variations on plans are not written in stone so things like 'pandemics' and mass inoculations fluctuate on a scale of opportunity.<br />
<br />
i hope NDM-1 comes to nothing and hopefully people will take hold of the fact that it's an enzyme-producing gene, the ramifications of that, and the truth about what a supposed counter-drug would really be, and the effects of that.<br />
<br />
i do think that the enemy's plans are routinely thwarted by the Creator's hand and it could be amazing on that day when everything's revealed, to see how much of His fighting we did not recognize or know about, despite how things may seem in the temporary world now.