The Beast That Rises Out of the Sea - Time No Longer2024-03-28T14:34:26Zhttp://timenolonger.ning.com/forum/topics/the-beast-that-rises-out-of?commentId=5124148%3AComment%3A118116&feed=yes&xn_auth=noYea, true. I'm thinking Balka…tag:timenolonger.ning.com,2021-04-18:5124148:Comment:1181212021-04-18T22:22:53.873ZSinclairhttp://timenolonger.ning.com/profile/Sinclair
<p>Yea, true. I'm thinking Balkan Slavs but they trotted into that territory quite a time ago. I guess there might not be a lot left.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>WeightofAudio said:</cite></p>
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<p>Yea, true. I'm thinking Balkan Slavs but they trotted into that territory quite a time ago. I guess there might not be a lot left.<br/> <br/> <cite>WeightofAudio said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://timenolonger.ning.com/forum/topics/the-beast-that-rises-out-of?commentId=5124148%3AComment%3A118011&xg_source=activity#5124148Comment118011"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Not sure if there’s a lot of Slavic blood currently in turkey, but I think you may be right. I recall reading Strabo mentioning Serbs/Serboi having a river named after them in Lycia.</div>
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<p>All leaders of these world who have done corruption will at the end face judgements because they have not a dared to the law.</p>
<p>All leaders of these world who have done corruption will at the end face judgements because they have not a dared to the law.</p> Not sure if there’s a lot of…tag:timenolonger.ning.com,2021-04-16:5124148:Comment:1180112021-04-16T14:52:48.766ZWeightofAudiohttp://timenolonger.ning.com/profile/JonathanGSchultz
Not sure if there’s a lot of Slavic blood currently in turkey, but I think you may be right. I recall reading Strabo mentioning Serbs/Serboi having a river named after them in Lycia.
Not sure if there’s a lot of Slavic blood currently in turkey, but I think you may be right. I recall reading Strabo mentioning Serbs/Serboi having a river named after them in Lycia. The evil spirits work more po…tag:timenolonger.ning.com,2021-04-16:5124148:Comment:1179282021-04-16T10:47:53.764Zdavid omweno ongorihttp://timenolonger.ning.com/profile/davidomwenoongori
<p>The evil spirits work more powerful in the seas and oceans than on the earth ground.</p>
<p>The evil spirits work more powerful in the seas and oceans than on the earth ground.</p> Sarpedon i think. A lot of Sl…tag:timenolonger.ning.com,2021-04-15:5124148:Comment:1178132021-04-15T22:46:57.955ZSinclairhttp://timenolonger.ning.com/profile/Sinclair
<p>Sarpedon i think. A lot of Slavic blood in Turkey? Sarpedon went to the Anatolian region.</p>
<p>Sarpedon i think. A lot of Slavic blood in Turkey? Sarpedon went to the Anatolian region.</p> Which of the sons would Slavs…tag:timenolonger.ning.com,2021-04-13:5124148:Comment:1179202021-04-13T14:48:16.502ZWeightofAudiohttp://timenolonger.ning.com/profile/JonathanGSchultz
<p>Which of the sons would Slavs claim direct descent? </p>
<p>Which of the sons would Slavs claim direct descent? </p> I’m gonna shift any future di…tag:timenolonger.ning.com,2019-05-14:5124148:Comment:573132019-05-14T14:13:59.373ZWeightofAudiohttp://timenolonger.ning.com/profile/JonathanGSchultz
<p>I’m gonna shift any future discussion about much of what was previously discussed here to my Haplogroup thread. I think I’ve hijacked this one enough...lol..</p>
<p>I’m gonna shift any future discussion about much of what was previously discussed here to my Haplogroup thread. I think I’ve hijacked this one enough...lol..</p> Yes, this is logical. I only…tag:timenolonger.ning.com,2019-05-09:5124148:Comment:574152019-05-09T16:13:34.027ZWeightofAudiohttp://timenolonger.ning.com/profile/JonathanGSchultz
<p><br></br> Yes, this is logical. I only have more and more questions...lol...For other times perhaps.</p>
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<p>Im nearly certain that H must be from Europa, or if not, perhaps U5? A lot of interesting mysteries in the world, with a one objective Truth ...<br></br> <cite>Sinclair said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://timenolonger.ning.com/forum/topics/the-beast-that-rises-out-of?xg_source=activity#5124148Comment57310"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Also, Europa had three sons who were not…</p>
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<p><br/> Yes, this is logical. I only have more and more questions...lol...For other times perhaps.</p>
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<p>Im nearly certain that H must be from Europa, or if not, perhaps U5? A lot of interesting mysteries in the world, with a one objective Truth ...<br/> <cite>Sinclair said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://timenolonger.ning.com/forum/topics/the-beast-that-rises-out-of?xg_source=activity#5124148Comment57310"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Also, Europa had three sons who were not fathered by a human and any human ancestor of that creature was allegedly born pre-flood and not a descendant of Noah</p>
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</blockquote> Also, Europa had three sons w…tag:timenolonger.ning.com,2019-05-08:5124148:Comment:573102019-05-08T23:01:54.835ZSinclairhttp://timenolonger.ning.com/profile/Sinclair
<p>Also, Europa had three sons who were not fathered by a human and any human ancestor of that creature was allegedly born pre-flood and not a descendant of Noah.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>WeightofAudio said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://timenolonger.ning.com/forum/topics/the-beast-that-rises-out-of?commentId=5124148%3AComment%3A57302&xg_source=activity#5124148Comment57401"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Whoops, did not take into account Tiras, son of Japheth. I suppose some japhetic…</p>
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<p>Also, Europa had three sons who were not fathered by a human and any human ancestor of that creature was allegedly born pre-flood and not a descendant of Noah.<br/> <br/> <cite>WeightofAudio said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://timenolonger.ning.com/forum/topics/the-beast-that-rises-out-of?commentId=5124148%3AComment%3A57302&xg_source=activity#5124148Comment57401"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Whoops, did not take into account Tiras, son of Japheth. I suppose some japhetic lines in Europe where not connected to later “Aryan” peoples, even if Trojans mingled with nephil lines (apart from the obvious nephil contribution of Phoenicia). </p>
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<p>Paternal haplogroup R is represented by about half of European men and surely must be connected to aryan speech , Scythian horseriding culture, and other influences. For reference, iranic speaking middle easterners and North Indian Brahmins have large amounts of R as well. Most non-Indian, non Persian/other Iranics in the Middle East have much lower R, and the group is traditionally absent among east and southeast Asians. Amerindians interestingly have some R1a- this may be early R1a and not connected to Europeans. </p>
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<p>Nearly forgot, R is well represented by Turkic-speakers...although the bearers of Turkic languages probably, I don’t guess, had much less if any R...these r-bearers must be from earlier iranic-speakers, who indeed dominated Central Asia prior to Turk expansion from the northeast.</p>
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<p>Whats the other half of European male haplogroups? Ydna “I” is a significant group in Europe, being more numerous than R in regions of Scandinavia. It’s related somehow to ydna “J” and interestingly, “I” is confined to Europe. It also is high in the Balkans.</p>
<p>Ydna “G” today peaks in the Caucasus, and was carried by the so called first farmers in “Neolithic” Europe. It’s been noted by researchers that by the middle of the “Neolithic”, the greater bulk of G’s in Europe dropped down rather starkly. It still exists in Europe as a usually pretty rare group.</p>
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<p>naturally, there are others, and some variation in frequency from region to region. </p>
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<p>sorry about all that...I suppose this would have been better-suited as an entry into my Haplogroups post. Blessings.</p>
<p><br/> <cite>WeightofAudio said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://timenolonger.ning.com/forum/topics/the-beast-that-rises-out-of?xg_source=activity#5124148Comment57302"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I see. I wonder if mtdna group H is represented by Europa. This is the dominant maternal haplogroup among Europeans, something like 42-45% of all European-derived people. </p>
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<p>What were the Trojans paternally derived from? R1 Japheth lineages? Pardon me if I get a touch annoying...lol</p>
<p>The European genetic structure I take it is mostly unchanged since the Iranian migrations westward? A blending of Trojans and Iranics? Interesting stuff to digest.</p>
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<blockquote cite="http://timenolonger.ning.com/forum/topics/the-beast-that-rises-out-of?xg_source=activity#5124148Comment57201"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>As i understand it, they migrated to the Scandinavian regions after the Trojan war and the location was in the region of Turkey. Trojans may actually be of maternal Phoenecian ancestry, (probably through Europa). They would be hyrbid - a branch of the same family Merovingians derive from.</p>
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<p>Whoops, did not take into account Tiras, son of Japheth. I suppose some japhetic lines in Europe where not connected to later “Aryan” peoples, even if Trojans mingled with nephil lines (apart from the obvious nephil contribution of Phoenicia). </p>
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<p>Paternal haplogroup R is represented by about half of European men and surely must be connected to aryan speech , Scythian horseriding culture, and other influences. For reference, iranic speaking middle easterners and North Indian…</p>
<p>Whoops, did not take into account Tiras, son of Japheth. I suppose some japhetic lines in Europe where not connected to later “Aryan” peoples, even if Trojans mingled with nephil lines (apart from the obvious nephil contribution of Phoenicia). </p>
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<p>Paternal haplogroup R is represented by about half of European men and surely must be connected to aryan speech , Scythian horseriding culture, and other influences. For reference, iranic speaking middle easterners and North Indian Brahmins have large amounts of R as well. Most non-Indian, non Persian/other Iranics in the Middle East have much lower R, and the group is traditionally absent among east and southeast Asians. Amerindians interestingly have some R1a- this may be early R1a and not connected to Europeans. </p>
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<p>Nearly forgot, R is well represented by Turkic-speakers...although the bearers of Turkic languages probably, I don’t guess, had much less if any R...these r-bearers must be from earlier iranic-speakers, who indeed dominated Central Asia prior to Turk expansion from the northeast.</p>
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<p>Whats the other half of European male haplogroups? Ydna “I” is a significant group in Europe, being more numerous than R in regions of Scandinavia. It’s related somehow to ydna “J” and interestingly, “I” is confined to Europe. It also is high in the Balkans.</p>
<p>Ydna “G” today peaks in the Caucasus, and was carried by the so called first farmers in “Neolithic” Europe. It’s been noted by researchers that by the middle of the “Neolithic”, the greater bulk of G’s in Europe dropped down rather starkly. It still exists in Europe as a usually pretty rare group.</p>
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<p>naturally, there are others, and some variation in frequency from region to region. </p>
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<p>sorry about all that...I suppose this would have been better-suited as an entry into my Haplogroups post. Blessings.</p>
<p><br/> <cite>WeightofAudio said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://timenolonger.ning.com/forum/topics/the-beast-that-rises-out-of?xg_source=activity#5124148Comment57302"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I see. I wonder if mtdna group H is represented by Europa. This is the dominant maternal haplogroup among Europeans, something like 42-45% of all European-derived people. </p>
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<p>What were the Trojans paternally derived from? R1 Japheth lineages? Pardon me if I get a touch annoying...lol</p>
<p>The European genetic structure I take it is mostly unchanged since the Iranian migrations westward? A blending of Trojans and Iranics? Interesting stuff to digest.</p>
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<blockquote cite="http://timenolonger.ning.com/forum/topics/the-beast-that-rises-out-of?xg_source=activity#5124148Comment57201"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>As i understand it, they migrated to the Scandinavian regions after the Trojan war and the location was in the region of Turkey. Trojans may actually be of maternal Phoenecian ancestry, (probably through Europa). They would be hyrbid - a branch of the same family Merovingians derive from.</p>
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